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Ninja H2?

FXCLM5 said:
T/C works, and nobody is here arguing you that it doesnt,

what I want you to realize the T/C systems are well developed enough it makes it easy to harness 150+ bhp (4-5 years ago)

all you keep saying is bikes DONT NEED MORE HP because the rider uses T/C to reduce that ADDITIONAL POWER when needed

and all im saying is T/C systems are continuously improving, and you still dont have a baseline understanding of how its actually working in the real world on a real litrebike.

so who cares if that 300hp bike is detuned to 50hp if you go WOT mid apex at max lean angles, what i want you to understand was 3x years ago their data supported to bring peak hp down to 50 under those conditions.

Hopefully with 4 more years of R&D combined with a new stronger crazier supercharged motor characteristics maybe they have the formula for raising peak hp to 60hp instead of 50 from those exact same conditions

But somehow your on the boat saying omfg too much HP is too ridiculous :x

Not even understanding the total package
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Right, if a 150 hp bike gets detuned to 50 hp in a turn that doesn't mean that remaining 100 hp are useless, because there are some other situations where that bike CAN use the full 150 hp. I'm with you there.

The H2R is different. What I'm saying is that there are no situations on the street that will ever allow a rider to put down anywhere close to 300 hp. TC will always detune it to something significantly less than 300 hp, because otherwise the bike will wheelie. No TC will change the fundamental geometry and physics of this situation.

The only time you might use the full 300 hp is during top speed (e.g. 180+ mph) runs, or if you put a crazy long swingarm on the bike, or wheelie bars.
 
ilikefood said:
Right, if a 150 hp bike gets detuned to 50 hp in a turn that doesn't mean that remaining 100 hp are useless, because there are some other situations where that bike CAN use the full 150 hp. I'm with you there.

The H2R is different. What I'm saying is that there are no situations on the street that will ever allow a rider to put down anywhere close to 300 hp. TC will always detune it to something significantly less than 300 hp, because otherwise the bike will wheelie. No TC will change the fundamental geometry and physics of this situation.

The only time you might use the full 300 hp is during top speed (e.g. 180+ mph) runs, or if you put a crazy long swingarm on the bike, or wheelie bars.
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You should never ever make generalizations about anything, because it is so easy to prove otherwise.

See what I did there? :twofinger
 
ilikefood said:
Right, if a 150 hp bike gets detuned to 50 hp in a turn that doesn't mean that remaining 100 hp are useless, because there are some other situations where that bike CAN use the full 150 hp. I'm with you there.

The H2R is different. What I'm saying is that there are no situations on the street that will ever allow a rider to put down anywhere close to 300 hp. TC will always detune it to something significantly less than 300 hp, because otherwise the bike will wheelie. No TC will change the fundamental geometry and physics of this situation.

The only time you might use the full 300 hp is during top speed (e.g. 180+ mph) runs, or if you put a crazy long swingarm on the bike, or wheelie bars.
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You should email or call Kawasaki corporate and tell them how much of a waste of time and resources this project is.
 
ilikefood said:
Right, if a 150 hp bike gets detuned to 50 hp in a turn that doesn't mean that remaining 100 hp are useless, because there are some other situations where that bike CAN use the full 150 hp. I'm with you there.

The H2R is different. What I'm saying is that there are no situations on the street that will ever allow a rider to put down anywhere close to 300 hp. TC will always detune it to something significantly less than 300 hp, because otherwise the bike will wheelie. No TC will change the fundamental geometry and physics of this situation.

The only time you might use the full 300 hp is during top speed (e.g. 180+ mph) runs, or if you put a crazy long swingarm on the bike, or wheelie bars.
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:rofl you know your just hating on Kawasaki,

too bad the bike is not a dream and real.

buuuut i guess you know better then the entire KHI group, that it cant be done,

i guess its time for you to prove them wrong :x, im not sure how, since the bike isnt just in "prototype planning discussing stage" no its a reality :wow

wakeup man, what your saying is KHI developed a bike that just wont work.

I think it WILL work.

Why else spout off these #'s that dont mean shit if the bike cant perform at all to them???????
 
aminalmutha said:
Few people can ride a modern, properly set-up 600 to its limit, let alone anything with more grunt.
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That was, in essence, my point. That's why it would be fun watching some of the Formula Pacific (FP) guys take it out. They could at least show us the difference it makes :)
 
it DOES have a pretty long swingarm on it..just sayin.

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Saw this on another site this AM:

"This was Jeremy's reply when I asked him about a ride report on the new H2":
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> -
> - Jeremy Toye: "The thing is fuckin mental! Haven't rode on track yet, just doin commercial.
> - But it rips wheelies over 100mph no problem.
> -
> - They let you do these things when you win Pikes Peak on a ZX-10R. "
 
I dont care about all this bickering.......... I just want a 40hp KTM RC390 with adjustable suspension. :twofinger
 
maddog said:
I dont care about all this bickering.......... I just want a 40hp KTM RC390 with adjustable suspension. :twofinger
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well, you're simply being reasonable

tho' this is normally an attribute, here......

such rationality is wasted, mired in an emotional thread discussing a pricey, mega-HP halo product


wait - can that KTM be compound super/turbo-charged?
 
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