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Noobs guide to dealing with a LEO <REPOST>

FrigginChi

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Name
Chi
As copied from Craigslist.


Ladies and Gentlemen,
Allow me to introduced myself. I am a police officer. More importantly to this post, I am a police officer who is sick and damned tired of dealing with certain things on a day to day basis:

1) Contrary to what you might think, I am not an idiot. That ring on my finger is a BA from Texas Tech. My GPA was a 3.71 and I was in fact the president of my frat (which means I got a lot of stories that start out "So, this one time, we were fucked up, and...). So, when I make the mistake of mispronouncing your name (the last name with 17 fucking letters, only two of which are vowels), dont give me that look like I just kicked your puppy.

While I may not be an idiot, I am human and I do fuck things up from time to time. When I apologize for pulling you over because I thought your tags were out, just take the sorry and be on about your way. DO NOT get a high and mighty attitude. Our state has over 5000 traffic laws, I can find one to help you get over your tude.

2) No, I do not have "real criminals" I should be out looking for. Did you happen to notice the fucking Harley parked behind you with LED's blinking? Lemme give you a hint - if you see a motorcycle officer, our entire job relates to asshole drivers. Asshole drivers are the ones who make your daily commute dangerous (Or, a complete standstill, once they wreck out). With that in mind, shut up about the other "important" things I "should be doing." Believe it or not, I tried to get this job. Dont act like you wouldnt like to get paid to ride a Harley for 8 hours a day. But, the main benefit of this job, is I dont have "Real criminals" to fuck with. No shagging calls, dealing with domestics, and so on. My worst days are telling someone they lost a loved one in a wreck I just worked. Which, brings me to my next point:

3) If I was a dick from the beginning of the stop, I apologize. I mean that with all sincerity. I am human. If I've dealt with 10 assholes before I stopped you or maybe delivered a death notification, I may have done the wrong thing and assumed you were gonna be one too. Believe it or not, after my shift on the way home, I'll probably reflect on my day and feel a bit shitty if our interaction stands out because I was a jerk. Yours wouldnt be the first citation I've "lost" because I thought I was being an overbearing prick at the time I wrote it. We all have our bad days.

4) No good deed goes unpunished. I know that. But, if I give you a warning - DO NOT assume I pulled you over for a bullshit reason and then lost my nerve. Just because I didnt write you for 7 over the limit, doesnt mean I was profiling and you should set up a meeting with my Chief and your NAACP rep. You complaining that "He stopped me for nothin, oterwise he'd have given me a ticket," is bullshit and, frankly, is the reason most of us have stopped giving warnings.

Profiling is BULLSHIT, by the way. You're hauling ass past me at 70+ mph. I have to see your speed, if you have a front license plate, registration sticker, inspection sticker and if you're wearing a seatbelt in the split second you pass me. I couldnt give two shits if your black white or green.

5) No, you may not see my RADAR gun. For a few reasons. First, I dont have to show it to you. You bestfriend's roommate's boyfriend who talked to a cop once is fucking wrong. I dont have to show it to you, I dont care what you heard. Second, I dont want to show it to you, because I dont want you out of your car. Why? You may not know that you're not gonna attack me, but I dont know that. If you're seated, you're less of a threat and I like feeling as comfy as I can. Also, I dont have a RADAR anymore. I have LIDAR. If you're gonna act like a lawyer on the side of the road, get your shit squared away first and know what you're talking about. Finally, you cant see the LIDAR for your own safety. You feel that way your car rocks every time an 18 wheeler flys by? I'd rather not get sued becuase your stupid ass fell into traffic and got killed on my stop.

While I'm on my good pal LIDAR, it has some neat features. It's a laser beamed device, so - no, I couldnt have gotten the guy next to you. It's got a scope on it, and the scope's dot was aimed directly at your car's grill. Also, it tells me the distance in feet that i clocked you at. So, dont tell me, I couldnt have gotten you from that far, because I can. Its accurate to 2500 feet (half a mile or so), and I can clock you, get two swigs of coffee and eat three donut holes by the time you get close enough to see my motorcycle on the shoulder.

6) Arguements take place in court, not on the side of the road. No exceptions. And, yes, I will show up to court. Even on my day off. I get paid (by you, thanks for reminding me) OT to show up to court, and I'm trying to con my wife into letting me buy a new boat, so I need that money. Now, once we get to court, follow a few easy rules:

Dont lie. My bike has a video camera on it, and that box on my belt is a mic. The camera is hooked into my fixed 4 way RADAR, so it shows your speed (if I didnt clock you with a LIDAR unit, that is). Oh, and judges dont like all those cuss words you used out at the scene...

Dont yell at me outside the court room. This is not a personal matter to me, even if it is for you. After this, Im going home and watching my Texas Rangers fuck up another promising season. You will be the furthest thing from my mind.


Guys and gals, we are the same as you. We've got a home life that might suck, bills to pay, college loans, the damned team that never wins (Tech losing in the first fuckin round! Damn you Bobby Knight), and so on. We have feelings, personalities, and dreams just like you. When Im at your window, look at my face. You met a hundred guys like me in college, and loved em. I was that guy a few years ago, and not much has changed. Im still a nice guy, treat me like one and you might just get a warning.
 
Although, he should add to that the following:

If you are on your bike and doing 10-15 over the limit, and I start my car, you should just pull over and wait for me and expect me to be coming after you.
 
Texas Tech Red Raiders would kick the shit out of the Oakland Raiders.
 
Nicely written post ChiChiMonster. I know the handful of times I've been pulled over, I knew exactly what it was for, and the one time I got pulled over for "no reason", it was because it was St. Patrick's Day, and the cop was being extra watchful for DDs. Did I get pissed, talk shit to him? Hell no. I didn't even talk shit to my friends about it later, because I'm glad someone's watching for drunks, even if they take a swing-and-a-miss every once in a while. Just out of curiosity, what do you prefer other MCs do if you pull them over? Turn the bike off and stay on it or stay on? Helmet off first or wait 'till you ask for it off? Hopefully I'll never have to find out the hard way, but I've been thinking about what to do since I started commuting on the bike. Anyway, thanks for trying to keep the morons off the road and making our commutes a little safer!
 
Officer:

Allow me to introduce myself. I'm the guy, or gal, you just pulled over. Literally 99% of the time, I was not doing anything that was a danger to anyone, including myself. Sure, maybe I was 5-10 mph over the freeway limit, but so was everyone else, and you know it. The road was clear, traffic was light, and we were all moving in a straight line, so don't act like I was doing stand-up wheelies through a farmers market.

I also have Constitutional rights. You don't get to pull me over without probable cause, but we both know that you have the power, if not the authority, to just make shit up if you feel like it, and I'm screwed. I don't have to testify against myself, but you know most of us will say all kinds of self-incriminating stuff when you ask, "know why I pulled you over?"

I am not your therapist. I have no obligation to understand you, be sympathetic, or commiserate with you about how tough your job is. Nobody forced you to become a cop - you wanted the title. You wanted it for the same reason you joined a fraternity in college - you wanted to be in with the in crowd, accepted by the powerful, at least as you perceived them. If you don't like it, quit whining, and just quit. It's a privilege, not a prison sentence.

So you have a college degree. So what? It's not in you job description. That says, "high school diploma plus 20 weeks in the police academy." Your BA in Economics or whatever is not a law degree. It does not make you a Judge. I'm over-qualified for my job too - most of us are, and that's life.

I've figured out that you are not here to help, and nothing I can blurt out is likely to get any sympathy. More likely, it's going to get, "suspect admitted guilt" on your report. You are not my friend, you are not here to give me a warning, you are here to nail me and fulfill your quota, or whatever weasel word you use instead of quota.

Know what? In our current system, it's far more likely that I will have problems from interactions with cops than I ever will with street thuglies. It is far more likely that I will face fines, insurance hikes, and time in court for harmless infractions than I will ever feel gratitude that the cops are out there protecting me from dickweeds on cellphones drifting their SUVs blindly into my lane.

We dislike you for a reason. You are not here to help. You're here to keep us obedient and intimidated, and to collect fines. As long as we both understand this, you probably won't get a chance to beat the crap out of me and get away with it.
 
Nicely done... both sides. :laughing

I always treat LEOs with respect... they ARE really out there protecting my ass from the bad guys. Yes bastids give me a ticket once in a while, but hey, divide it up by the number of times I speed, and is only a few pennies per. Good deal if you ask me. ;)
 
ChiChiMonster said:
DO NOT get a high and mighty attitude. Our state has over 5000 traffic laws, I can find one to help you get over your tude.


Haha, sounds about as reasonable as a waiter rubbing one out in the food of people who give them attitude....

Then again when would they have time to rub one out, waiters actually have to work for a living!:twofinger
 
If this is the fraternal mind-set of police departments in our neck of the wooods I'm really worried. So, I get pulled over and somehow piss off the cop who has pulled me over, he can just make shit up because I pissed him off? Wow.

And there's no such thing as "profiliing"? For Christ's sake, everyone profiles to some extent -- that's called human nature. Ask any Sociologist.
 
You got Mojo Mr. Horse LOL
 
Mr. Horse said:
Officer:

Allow me to introduce myself. I'm the guy, or gal, you just pulled over. Literally 99% of the time, I was not doing anything that was a danger to anyone, including myself. Sure, maybe I was 5-10 mph over the freeway limit, but so was everyone else, and you know it. The road was clear, traffic was light, and we were all moving in a straight line, so don't act like I was doing stand-up wheelies through a farmers market.

I also have Constitutional rights. You don't get to pull me over without probable cause, but we both know that you have the power, if not the authority, to just make shit up if you feel like it, and I'm screwed. I don't have to testify against myself, but you know most of us will say all kinds of self-incriminating stuff when you ask, "know why I pulled you over?"

I am not your therapist. I have no obligation to understand you, be sympathetic, or commiserate with you about how tough your job is. Nobody forced you to become a cop - you wanted the title. You wanted it for the same reason you joined a fraternity in college - you wanted to be in with the in crowd, accepted by the powerful, at least as you perceived them. If you don't like it, quit whining, and just quit. It's a privilege, not a prison sentence.

So you have a college degree. So what? It's not in you job description. That says, "high school diploma plus 20 weeks in the police academy." Your BA in Economics or whatever is not a law degree. It does not make you a Judge. I'm over-qualified for my job too - most of us are, and that's life.

I've figured out that you are not here to help, and nothing I can blurt out is likely to get any sympathy. More likely, it's going to get, "suspect admitted guilt" on your report. You are not my friend, you are not here to give me a warning, you are here to nail me and fulfill your quota, or whatever weasel word you use instead of quota.

Know what? In our current system, it's far more likely that I will have problems from interactions with cops than I ever will with street thuglies. It is far more likely that I will face fines, insurance hikes, and time in court for harmless infractions than I will ever feel gratitude that the cops are out there protecting me from dickweeds on cellphones drifting their SUVs blindly into my lane.

We dislike you for a reason. You are not here to help. You're here to keep us obedient and intimidated, and to collect fines. As long as we both understand this, you probably won't get a chance to beat the crap out of me and get away with it.

FUCKING AMAZING.
 
Mr. Horse said:
Officer:

Allow me to introduce myself. I'm the guy, or gal, you just pulled over. Literally 99% of the time, I was not doing anything that was a danger to anyone, including myself. Sure, maybe I was 5-10 mph over the freeway limit, but so was everyone else, and you know it. The road was clear, traffic was light, and we were all moving in a straight line, so don't act like I was doing stand-up wheelies through a farmers market.

I also have Constitutional rights. You don't get to pull me over without probable cause, but we both know that you have the power, if not the authority, to just make shit up if you feel like it, and I'm screwed. I don't have to testify against myself, but you know most of us will say all kinds of self-incriminating stuff when you ask, "know why I pulled you over?"

I am not your therapist. I have no obligation to understand you, be sympathetic, or commiserate with you about how tough your job is. Nobody forced you to become a cop - you wanted the title. You wanted it for the same reason you joined a fraternity in college - you wanted to be in with the in crowd, accepted by the powerful, at least as you perceived them. If you don't like it, quit whining, and just quit. It's a privilege, not a prison sentence.

So you have a college degree. So what? It's not in you job description. That says, "high school diploma plus 20 weeks in the police academy." Your BA in Economics or whatever is not a law degree. It does not make you a Judge. I'm over-qualified for my job too - most of us are, and that's life.

I've figured out that you are not here to help, and nothing I can blurt out is likely to get any sympathy. More likely, it's going to get, "suspect admitted guilt" on your report. You are not my friend, you are not here to give me a warning, you are here to nail me and fulfill your quota, or whatever weasel word you use instead of quota.

Know what? In our current system, it's far more likely that I will have problems from interactions with cops than I ever will with street thuglies. It is far more likely that I will face fines, insurance hikes, and time in court for harmless infractions than I will ever feel gratitude that the cops are out there protecting me from dickweeds on cellphones drifting their SUVs blindly into my lane.

We dislike you for a reason. You are not here to help. You're here to keep us obedient and intimidated, and to collect fines. As long as we both understand this, you probably won't get a chance to beat the crap out of me and get away with it.


Fuck I wish I had mojo for you!!!! Great post.

Law Enforcement in the US is predatory concerning the streets and freeways.
 
Assuming that you are in fact a police officer, I think its great that your on here admitting that a biker cops place in life is to harass the public.

Look man, if you want a power trip head down to the local 7-11 and shake down the clerk for a day old wiener...leave me alone. And as for these bullshit tickets that you write, my lawyer and I live for wasting your day off in court. I think its great that they pay you overtime, but I just got to waste your day. And if we all wasted your day, you'd never spend a minute in that boat.

To sum up: Cops are thugs just like street thugs...the only difference is that they take my wallet on the spot and you mail me a bill. Karma is going to catch up with you and your attitude. And finally, suck my balls.
 
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