RolnCode3
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Ohhhh. I got through 4 pages of drama and didn't see that.
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Open Carry and Loaded Magazines in Car.
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afm199
Well-known member
I do hope the OP lets us know where he hangs out, so I can either watch from a distance or stay away. And PLEASE, OP, don't bring out that weapon and start banging away to "help" a LEO. At least wait till the rest of us can GTFO.
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haha, you are trying to ridicule comprehension.... and you CLEARLY didnt comprehend.
read it again. theres a big part in the story where i say "THE 45 WAS REVEALED".
T-1 Thunder
newbie
What planet do you live on, dude?
No matter how many classes you take, or how perfect your record, or how good your reason - you will NOT get a permit in the bay area.
On the other hand, if your sister is fucking the sheriff, or you're a lawyer that donates to his campaign - then you don't need any classes, you can have a record, and you don't need any good reason and you will get one.
LOVE your bay area, people. LOVE IT and it's stupid ways.
NsOaklandR6
New member
But he already stated that someone has,NSO
If you don't like what adults have to say about your choice, then you really won't like how they treat you. "Open Carry/Lookit Me" sounds like trouble, if it works for you do it.
Don't expect everyone to rally to your side of a debate.
Did you not READ that story??? I told you I got caught in the middle of a PLANNED robbery of somebody else, I said I STILL had the time to Draw and make ready if I were carrying, AND I said yes "we" can be robbed but it does NOT happen the same way or as often. The people that walk around looking for targets to jack damn near all day and night are looking for EASY targets like people that OBVIOUSLY are not from around there, are weak looking, etc.. When it comes to people like me it's a more planned out thing because they don't know if I got a Mack 10 under my coat or what. Also it usually has to be some high value item they are going for on you like a big gold/diamond neckless, or they suspect you are carry A LOT ($$$ or $$$$) of cash on you, OR they want your car that has high value items in and on it. I told you I was dressed almost exactly like them that night, they didn't even know my candy blue caprice classic on 22's was sitting 10 ft away and that I had the keys on my waist. They were after the out of towner and his friends that came over they're like they were there 24's and 26's (Tv's custom this custom that) LITERALLY showing the whole neighborhood what they had earlier. I told you I had been over there and in that area countless times with no problems, this day/night there was A LOT of different variables that changed what was going on around me. I got robbed but it was really a security thing for them, They wanted me on the ground in case I tried to help the other guy out. When they couldn't catch him they tried to get what they could from me.
Now that was in my city but it was not my side of town. Let me give you another story to back this and another post I made about maybe knowing who it is doing the robbing.
You all should have heard by now about Don Perata getting car jacked in North Oakland and one of the guys that they suspect was involved they think shot into the Piano Store (Possibly with the Anti-Gun Perata's own Gun)e on Piedmont Ave Paralyzing a young boy inside taking piano lessons.
The Suspect in both of these cases I happen to have known and went to High School and had a class with. I also known him in the neighborhood. We didn't HANG out together on a daily basis but I would see him outside of school either stopping through my block or somewhere else on our side of town. We would see each other and stop and talk for a few minutes, catch up or whatever, and go on about our days/nights.
Now lets say for instance he is in fact guilty of those crimes. Now lets replace Don Perata in the car with ME. Lets say I got a new car that the suspect hasn't seen before. SO him and his buddies run up to me at the stop light guns pointed and tell me to get out, BUT WAIT the suspect see's me and recognizes me, puts the gun away, tells anybody he is with that I don't know (may know them to) that it's coo cuz it's his "Folkz" and then starts smiling and laughing about the situation and probably will try to bum a ride from me.
I can tell you for a FACT the jacking would NOT continue if that had of been me in that car. It may not even have started in the first place. They may have saw a old fat white guy in a charger on 22's getting gas up the street and decided to borrow it. Once again seeing somebody that looks like them (before they can recognize who it is) brings a lot more risk into the situation.
Same thing if it were on the street somewhere and my back was turned, the same suspect somehow creeps up behind me and puts a gun to my back, I turn around and "WHATTYA KNOW WASSUP WIT IT MY NIGI!! DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS YOU MY BAD LOLOLOL"
Now if that were some of you in that situation you would continue to receive a couple of smacks from the butt of whatever Firearm the suspect was carrying until money started to fall out of you.
But there's no difference though right???
NsOaklandR6
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First off I know this thread is large but you need to go back a couple of pages to see HOW and why I would and will carry unloaded.
I never said they should assume my gun is unloaded. They can by law stop me and check my weapon BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PRONE ME OUT AND CALL THE ENTIRE SHIFT IN TO DO IT. That is my point regarding the Reaction to a holstered weapon when NOTHING ELSE shows the person in question is a criminal or committing a crime.
Once again you need to go back a few pages and read because I have made this and other things VERY CLEAR in several posts. But every time I have to do it again I get called out for going over the same points.
It is my legal right to carry Unloaded in a holster. So what are YOU saying I should do if I want to carry in this fashion? Wear old black clothes I don't care about because I will be on the ground a lot???? You don't see anything wrong with that???? I should not have to worry about messing new clothes up every day I OC because the gestapo (the few that are) is paranoid and traumatized.
NsOaklandR6
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Well maybe some of use law abiding civilians should all start carrying to stop that from happening huh? Kind of hard to take a gun from 1 person when 95% of the people on the street around them are holstered up isn't it? Until then I will be prepared for any attempt on me or my gun. Also That's why my holster has a thumb break and is not free and clear to pull out (press fit). I also have gotten that to a speed that looks like there was nothing even holding it in by the way.
masameet
Rawr!
[Shrug]
So why don't you just carry your semi-automatic openly?
Justifying your reasons online ... I think you'd have more fun on Calguns than here. Lotta guys there who think just like you. (And there are some on BARF who carry too but they don't start a thread about it.)
And then check back with us if and when you get stopped by a LEO. Since you'll be carrying openly in Oakland, and OPD now has about 800 men and women on its force, I'm sure you'll eventually meet one of them.
So why don't you just carry your semi-automatic openly?
Justifying your reasons online ... I think you'd have more fun on Calguns than here. Lotta guys there who think just like you. (And there are some on BARF who carry too but they don't start a thread about it.)
And then check back with us if and when you get stopped by a LEO. Since you'll be carrying openly in Oakland, and OPD now has about 800 men and women on its force, I'm sure you'll eventually meet one of them.
Archimedes
Fire Watcher
Good luck with that.
I don't have the energy to respond to everything that I see wrong with your line of thinking. Sounds like someone's screaming for attention.
There are a lot of things that are 'legal' to do, but which are still seriously dumb. This would be one of them, IMO.
tjdziuba
Gasoline-Drinking Horse
ITT: a bunch of cops butthurt over the fact that law abiding citizens can have guns.
Good luck to you, OP. Personally, for me, it's concealed carry or nothing, and since I'll never get a CCW here, I don't carry. To each his own.
Just watch out for your cornhole, man.
Good luck to you, OP. Personally, for me, it's concealed carry or nothing, and since I'll never get a CCW here, I don't carry. To each his own.
Just watch out for your cornhole, man.
NsOaklandR6
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like i said before no one has flamed you or insulted you, if you dont understand the difference beetween saying you should do this or saying you could do this then i dont know what to tell you
I also dont understand why if you asked for advice/opinions you just want to argue about the advice/opinions your being given. if you want examples of flaming I could give you that as well but it usually involves more then one person asking you if you "could" find a better way to get the whole activism thing out of your system.
such a conflicting statement you have seemed to made....
"i never told you that you should go hang out with the tree people like your saying i did" ........
"why carry a gun if you dont plan on using it? guns and activism seems to be a silly mix, couldnt you just go hang out with the tree people in berkely to get your activism kick?
seems like you just said the exact same thing trying not to say the exact same thing....
i dont see what rally's for breast cancer, saving baby seals, green peace, or impeaching bush has to do with him talking about his right to carry His LEGAL weapon on him, in a LEGAL manner. you may think that you were totally clever in your creative act to discredit his activist spirit on GUN CONTROL... not on aids awareness, nor kosher meats. you people on the internet think that you are so witty, when an interesting, and almost intellectual debate pops up. you just have to shuck, and jive, and get a joke in.... he may be stubborn, and may keep circling back to a main subject that is pertinent to him, BUT he whats his rights honored... bottom line.
he is no different from the pickup truck driving dixie flag flying, pistol, and shot gun tote'n red necks around..... and he is no different from the pants saggin' buick regal drivin' glock sportin' thugs in the hood. but guess what.... no matter who they are THEIR RIGHT IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR LEGALLY REGISTERED WEAPON ON THEIR PERSON OPEN CARRIED. as long as he is abiding by his rules, and local laws, he is good to go.
period.......
please see above and then read the following:
What is Reading Comprehension?
Reading comprehension skills separates the "passive" unskilled reader from the "active" readers. Skilled readers don't just read, they interact with the text. To help a beginning reader understand this concept, you might make them privy to the dialogue readers have with themselves while reading.
Skilled readers, for instance:
1. Predict what will happen next in a story using clues presented in text
2. Create questions about the main idea, message, or plot of the text
3. Monitor understanding of the sequence, context, or characters
4. Clarify parts of the text which have confused them
5. Connect the events in the text to prior knowledge or experience
The Importance of Learning Reading Comprehension Skill
Reading comprehension skills increase the pleasure and effectiveness of reading. Strong reading comprehension skills help in all the other subjects and in the personal and professional lives. The high stake tests that control advancement through elementary, middle, and high school and which determine entrance to college are in large parts, a measure of reading comprehension skills. And while there are test preparation courses which will provide a few short-cuts to improve test-taking strategies, these standardized tests tend to be very effective in measuring a readers reading comprehension skills. In short, building reading comprehension skills requires a long term strategy in which all the reading skills areas (phonics, fluency, vocabulary) will contribute to success
Thanks for the lesson Teach but we are not typing up speeches for dirty politicians, all that dancing around a word or 2 to change the meaning of what you said is
. Yourwere tying to clown me plain and simple but don't think I don't or didn't understand the context of what you were trying to change your statement to. I just don't really believe it, I think you were at best trying to crack a funny. The part of your statement that kills anything else you said was: "Tree people in Berkeley to GET YOUR ACTIVISM "KICK". Your were trying to be a wise guy I think. But hey if I'm wrong my apologies, if I am right I wont hold it against you for life.
NsOaklandR6
New member
To the OP: Are you ready to eat asphault over this?
Go get yourself a nice taser than you can carry concealed in most places.
Otherwise, I'd like to suggest you invest in Pre-Paid Legal™.
Yes I am ready and expecting to eat asphalt (sadly) until the local PD get's use to me to exercise my right to carry.
As for a taser I'd get Beat shot, stabbed, and laughed at if I tased some 1 guy out of 5 that are trying to rob me or whatever the situation. A taser works for a min with 1 person (the newere ones that shoot the pins out) but it's not going to help much on the street really. That's fine for some lil old lady or the police that have 17 of their buddies around them.
NsOaklandR6
New member
Well Don't know if you noticed but I was trying to have some men and women of the law chime in ON the law AND give their opinion to hopefully and ultimately help me go about this to the letter of the law.
NsOaklandR6
New member
Thanks for the chime in.
As I have said before though you may have not seen the post...LEO's by law can check my weapon but there is a line that should ne be crossed and there is a way to approach and get this information without planting my face into the ground.
Other states do it with no problem, CA needs to get with the program should OC become more common.
NsOaklandR6
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NsOaklandR6
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I'd like to take a minute and thank "bojangle" and others for actually discussing and going the PC with me and not just giving flamed up opinions by themselves.
And I'd like to say the Columbo avatar is the Schitaki!!
And I'd like to say the Columbo avatar is the Schitaki!!
masameet
Rawr!
Blah blah blah.
And see. That's just it. You and T-1 Thunder tend to approach things the same way. And that is you have an opinion, solicit other opinions, and then you tell people they're wrong, even if their opinion is that of a law man.
You are going to do what you want to do. And if and when you get caught publicly carrying, you will still insist to the LEO(s) who stop you that you're doing it legally. And you may well be right. But a LEO will see you with your handgun and detain you, 'cuff you, and even arrest you. Then you'll have to get yourself bailed out of jail. And get your handgun back. Or worse, you'll have you handgun out, defending yourself with a would-be robber, and a LEO will come upon you and shoot you, not knowing you are a "good guy." (This scenario actually happened in Oakland a few years back, with an off-duty Oakland LEO being shot by another OPD officer.)
A lot of hassle in a state that makes obtaining a CCW a real hassle.
spddrcr
NEED DECALS? PM ME!!!!
It doesnt matter what is said from here on out, after my initial post you believe you were the victim of flaming, if you really want to see what flaming is about go and post this to the kitchen sink and then maybe you will see what im trying to tell you. you asked opinions and i gave you mine, you wernt happy with it so you and your friend decided to argue with me and everyone else who gave you an opinion for the last 8 pages. I guess at this point we agree to disagree, and with that ill say once again that i wasnt flaming you wheather you believe it or not. not that it matters as it's basically just an internet forum where poeple come to discuss things.
so as i said before good luck with it
arty
so as i said before good luck with it
arty
Shaggy
Zoinks!!!!
It's still being carried in a concealed fashion. Please don't argue with people who know what they're talking about...