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"Oriental" - is it derogatory?

Reli said:
Wikipedia: Kraut is a German word recorded in English from 1918 onwards as a derogatory term for a German....

Dictionary.com: Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. A contemptuous term used to refer to a German, especially a German soldier.....

Urban Dictionary: Offensive slang for a German person.
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Fucking Krauts got a couple hundred years to go before they can cry about being called Krauts.
 
All this talk reminds me of this poster:

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CocoLoco said:
First you say this...

...then you say this...

You're contradicting yourself. First you say we undermine ourselves as a species when we accept less than the "right" type of behavior from one another. Then you say my grandfathers' generation was able to accomplish the goal of defeating tyranny in their time even though they treated each other disrespectfully. In other words they spoke to each other disrespectfully and yet they were able to put that aside and work together to accomplish something bigger.
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I fail to see the contradiction? When did I say anything about tyranny?
 
fawndog said:
What's it called when someone romanticizes the 50's ?
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Misplaced Sentimentality. I grew up in the fifties. I remember separate but equal bathrooms and colored water fountains. I remember cops who delivered "justice" with a baton. And I remember McCarthy and how afraid people were of him.
 
The Greatest Generation fought a war, big deal. There's no war of that type of scale anymore. And America is much more multicultural now. Not to mention that segregation isn't legal anymore. Therefore, people need to have a few more skills than just knowing how to shoot each other and telling the wife to stay in the kitchen.
 
Reli said:
The Greatest Generation fought a war, big deal. There's no war of that type of scale anymore. And America is much more multicultural now. Not to mention that segregation isn't legal anymore. Therefore, people need to have a few more skills than just knowing how to shoot each other and telling the wife to stay in the kitchen.
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:rolleyes

You're riding on the backs of all the other skills they had.
 
So, what's the non-Asian consensus? Is "oriental" offensive? :p
 
tzrider said:
:rolleyes

You're riding on the backs of all the other skills they had.
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Wait just a second. Every generation is riding the backs of the skills from the prior generation. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. And if you're going to attempt to say that any particular generation did more than another it's largely by luck of the draw and has little to do with one generation being fundamentally better than any other.
 
tzrider said:
I really need to spell this out?
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They were riding on the skills of THEIR parents. Just like our kids and grandkids will be riding on the backs of the dot-com skills we had. Big deal. Times change, certain skills become obsolete or aren't needed as much anymore. Take bricklaying for example --- I love brick homes, but not as many are being built these days. Same with farming and ranching. There is more mechanization these days, so not as many farm or ranch workers are needed. The percentage of Americans who work in those industries has declined significantly, while other industries have increased.
 
Reli said:
They were riding on the skills of THEIR parents. Just like our kids and grandkids will be riding on the backs of the dot-com skills we had. Big deal. Times change, certain skills become obsolete or aren't needed as much anymore. Take bricklaying for example --- I love brick homes, but not as many are being built these days. Same with farming and ranching. There is more mechanization these days, so not as many farm or ranch workers are needed. The percentage of Americans who work in those industries has declined significantly, while other industries have increased.
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Correct. I grew up with all the adults being members of the "greatest generation". They were just people like anyone else, and it's sentimentality and nothing else to give them some exalted status.

Because the US was a very rich nation that let the USSR take the brunt of the beating, we "won" the war. It wasn't due to some super heroic generational status. The kids being born today are just as likely or unlikely to be as great as any other generation. I know some super kids in their 20s and 30s.
 
Reli said:
The Greatest Generation fought a war, big deal. There's no war of that type of scale anymore. And America is much more multicultural now. Not to mention that segregation isn't legal anymore. Therefore, people need to have a few more skills than just knowing how to shoot each other and telling the wife to stay in the kitchen.
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Post reminds me of Ricky Bobby's kids in Talledega Nights.

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For the most part, my generation has done jackshit compared to my parents' generation. Whether they chose it or not, they rose to the challenge. As the saying goes, character is not determined by what happens to us, but by how we respond to it.
 
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