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Pismo, Oceano Dunes SVRA - CORVA News

So happy to have Amy and CORVA in the game!!!

That seems like a lot of positive to me.

Thanks Butch.
 
Not sure there are issues? If there were a bunch of otters on the shorline, they'd still ask people not to ride over them. That seems like a reasonable request. Also, gobs of soft language in there. Other than the word "instructed", it kinda sounds like you could just run over all the clams if you wanted to.
 
Wet sand not closed per say... but please stay off.

Unfortunately that is the best place for regular passenger cars to travel and not get stuck. No it is the avg tourista that is impacting the clams the most. All the bad dudes with their motos and 4 x 4's can easily avoid the clams.
 
News blurb talked about how the sand has returned to the beach, making it too shallow for the cute critters to swim in and ravage the clams.
Some other noise about clams living close to the surface now (this month?) needing to remove vehicles from crushing clams

Political side, Oceano is in the crosshairs of bigger money Pismo, AG, GB, looking to steal water. From what I've read, Pismo has no closure, just Oceano.

All sounds fishy???

We NEED another excuse please.
 
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It's easy to support pismo from afar, but it gets a little harder when you go there.
 
How so??

My time spent there was moons ago, but I have really fond memories of riding the dunes, the beach, wheelies and Police chases. :teeth
 
Been a while since I was there too, but the people were awful. Trash blowing in the wind, drunks bombing through camp in the middle of the night, loud music and partying, etc. People die there every year, which is normal there, but that's very abnormal elsewhere. People rarely die at any parks around here and when it does happen, it's some real oddball incident where they fell and just landed wrong. That place makes us look bad.
 
Valid points and concerns. It is not everyone stirring the shit as plenty of rational crazy folk enjoy it.

I use to go to the river on weekends to watch people get consumed and towed. A lot of embarrassed boy friends / husbands. :laughing
No doubt there is some crazy things going on. Kind of :flag

People dying sucks and a higher death rate is no surprising. Suppose that has been part of the Pismo scene since forever :dunno

Motorized havoc and booze and youth and ... and... are a good recipe for some trouble. I don’t think it is the real off roaders are the issue there rather the easy access for Joe public is.

People are not there to birdwatch so some additional dangers are expected. Throw in the man eating clams and yeah. This is not the same as Yosemite. :p

They got people to watch that stuff. They chased me :laughing

I sure don’t want to lose access for my grandson or granddaughter if they want to get sandy.
 
When it comes to the deaths, which is mostly(all?) from collisions out in the dunes, the problem is the lack of organization with it being free reign for all vehicle types. When you go to any motocross track today, where it's nothing but bikes, they don't even let kids on the track at the same time as big bikes. And in our local ohv parks, they're 99% dirt bikes and you can't even fit anything bigger than a quad on most of the trails. I wouldn't allow my kids or grandkids to ride pismo. Well...you know, in as much capacity as I have to control another adult. There are too many inherent visibility issues with sand dunes to have dirt bikes and sandrails/trucks/sxs/etc. out there at the same time. All they have to do is designate certain days for certain vehicle usage. They do at mammoth bar with certain days being for hikers and mtb'ers, then certain days for dirt bikes, because they know that having them out there together is asking for injuries. Dirt bikers can usually crash into other dirt bikers without anyone dying and sandrails can usually crash into other sandrails without anyone dying, but the odds change quite a bit when they mix. Pismo is operating as if it were 1985 and we still didn't know this stuff.
 
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When I was little, the dune buggys were very basic, dualies were high tech, on a open frame, watercooled engine, bench seat over the diff.

Then my dad's stories about the $12. high side, of running harleys on sand, Pismo Owls MC.
 
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There was a lot more turf back in the day as well. They have squished it down which make more vehicles per sq mile. I remember riding and hardly every seeing anyone. If I break down I might die of thirst... :p

Totally get ya byke.
 
That's a great point. Some of it is self-inflicted by shrinking the park dramatically. I remember it too, being surprised to find the boundary was waaaaaaaaay tf out there. And I think it was a barb wire fence, which was weird lol.
 
We need all the great ideas we can get, so thanks everyone for the suggestions! Most people travel to Oceano for a few days, with the expectation that they will be able to use their vehicles every day they're camping. If you have a local park, like Metcalf, Hollister or Prairie City, it's easier to have certain days for certain users. Won't work at Oceano. Even at Mammoth Bar, mountain bikers and dirt bikers are on the same track together. Haven't been any accidents yet! But we need ideas, not only for Oceano but also for Hungry Valley and Dove Springs. All have had dirt bike vs SxS fatalities in the past year.
 
That article sure pissed me off and seeing noted during the webinar meeting was stunning. Jim from Friends of Oceana Dunes is one hell of an advocate and calling to stop the :bs and get with the facts and finish this whole piece of :poop off. :applause

Happy my donations to them are being repped by such a dude.

The Scrippts report evidently says that only 14% of the issue is potential to have anypart of that 14% be due to motorized vehicle use.

CA Parks are wasting time and OUR MONEY chasing this shit on behalf of some... <blank> advocates.

Thank you whistle blower... thank you.
 
Pismo Closure Date

I just talked to Amy (trailgal, three posts up) with CORVA.
CORVA is awesome and deserves your support.

The CCC, Cal Coastal Commission, has called for Pismo to end OHV use in five years, then changed it to three years. That would be March 2024.

The CCC doesn't have the authority to do that. This is tied up in litigation.
 
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Messed up situation.

Friends is showing the shady nature of the Government agencies involved and they seem to be just sheltering in place.
 
Support Friends of Oceano Dunes at their fundraiser BBQ... if you can.

The Friends of Oceano Dunes BBQ is back!
Join us March 25th at the Madera Fairgrounds for an amazing BBQ, the famous Tiki Bar, signature dessert auction, as well as live and silent auctions, opportunity drawings, and a evening full of fun.
 
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