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Porsche Panamera S ?

stan23

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Any owners? Been reading Porsche specific forums and it seems CPO is the way to go if looking for used. 2011 + with Sport Chrono.

Seems motor is solid but electronics package is hit/miss.
 
there's like, 4 people on BARF who would have the means and the desire to own a panamera S :laughing
 

I've had plenty of euro super cars that I have learned my lesson. CPO and only factory warranty for me.

there's like, 4 people on BARF who would have the means and the desire to own a panamera S :laughing

That are not unreasonably priced. I'm pretty sure a few years of racing AFM would be the equivalent of a Panny.
 
I hear Porsche is coming out with a wagon (Shooting Brake) version, but I thought the Panamera already was a wagon... :dunno
 
I hear Porsche is coming out with a wagon (Shooting Brake) version, but I thought the Panamera already was a wagon... :dunno

Not a wagon. What I really want is a 911 Turbo, but can't have one because I have a toddler.
 
well, if you go that route make sure everything maintenance wise has been done to it. all the wear and tear parts cost a loooot of money. Brakes, tires, spark plug change, PDK fluid change @60k etc.......... just going in for a big service cost you easily 2-3k. (thats without brakes and tires)

Problem is you can't really go independent cause they don't have the tools nor the interest to work on it. if you want you can PM me for more information.

Also make sure that everything has been replaced with Porsche parts, if the Dealer bought it from an action it was most likely trash and they fixed it cheap. run the history on the car (not Carfax) tell them to print out the History in the Porsche Service System, it will show you all the repairs (warranty/customer) performed. most importantly if it has been flagged by Porsche NA for substantial damage. if the car doesn't have a history it most definitely has an issue (flooded, etc.) don't believe if the guys tell you it had only an minor accident. i know from personal experience that even Porsche Financial / insurance clears a title to have a better resale value on their cars.

DO NOT buy a repaired vehicle, again DO NOT buy it. in the US there are only a few people who actually know how to repair the Aluminum and Magnesium chassis. And don't think the Bobby Joe repair shop around the corner has the tools or people to do it.



the warranty part is less important in my view, the car is pretty solid. it is an amazing car and totally underrated. as long as they shop or previous owner/lessee didn't skip on the service (which they most likely have, due to horrendous cost) or warranty repairs you should be good for a long time. the car will break down due to faulty control units or sensors way before the engine, transmission fails.
the technical part of the car is bullet proof, the electrics is what makes the car stop some years down the road. but that an issue with all the cars on the road nowadays.
 
well, if you go that route make sure everything maintenance wise has been done to it. all the wear and tear parts cost a loooot of money. Brakes, tires, spark plug change, PDK fluid change @60k etc.......... just going in for a big service cost you easily 2-3k. (thats without brakes and tires)

Problem is you can't really go independent cause they don't have the tools nor the interest to work on it. if you want you can PM me for more information.

Also make sure that everything has been replaced with Porsche parts, if the Dealer bought it from an action it was most likely trash and they fixed it cheap. run the history on the car (not Carfax) tell them to print out the History in the Porsche Service System, it will show you all the repairs (warranty/customer) performed. most importantly if it has been flagged by Porsche NA for substantial damage. if the car doesn't have a history it most definitely has an issue (flooded, etc.) don't believe if the guys tell you it had only an minor accident. i know from personal experience that even Porsche Financial / insurance clears a title to have a better resale value on their cars.

DO NOT buy a repaired vehicle, again DO NOT buy it. in the US there are only a few people who actually know how to repair the Aluminum and Magnesium chassis. And don't think the Bobby Joe repair shop around the corner has the tools or people to do it.



the warranty part is less important in my view, the car is pretty solid. it is an amazing car and totally underrated. as long as they shop or previous owner/lessee didn't skip on the service (which they most likely have, due to horrendous cost) or warranty repairs you should be good for a long time. the car will break down due to faulty control units or sensors way before the engine, transmission fails.
the technical part of the car is bullet proof, the electrics is what makes the car stop some years down the road. but that an issue with all the cars on the road nowadays.


Good information. I am only interested in buying from a Porsche dealer with full records and cpo warranty. If I were to buy one.
 
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Good information. I am only interested in buying from a Porsche dealer with full records and cpo warranty. If I were to buy one.

i am with you, everybody who ask me about the cars i tell to get one. if i were to buy ONE Porsche it would be a Pana Turbo or GTS. i think they are tanks and incredibly over engineered. if you want one do it, you will love the car and if you want you can reach out to me, maybe i can help you or at least give you names you can contact for an honest opinion. I'm not in the area anymore and don't work in that field but i still have some stuff i remember :laughing

BUT be aware, those cars are not cheap, i have a rule for EVERY used car. Keep 10% of the original MSRP as a safety reserve in your piggy bank.

the car cost 100K new, better have 10K in the bank just in case. like i said, the problem is not buying the car, it is keeping it on the road for a long time. (thats why i don't have one yet:teeth)
 
I was looking into used 911s a while back and decided that if I was going to pull the trigger it was definitely worth going CPO. At the end though, I decided to get an Audi A6 and now I'm looking toward a used M5. The 911s were a tad too small for my 6'5 self. I don't agree on there not being enough indy shops that have the proper tools/experience to do work after warrant. There are a few that are certainly more than capable and cost a fraction of the dealership.

Again, this obviously doesn't matter tell your car is well out of warranty anyway
 
A good friend has a 2015. She loves it, but not enough time to tell the weak spots. Probably the weakest spot/ largest cost to ownership will be the depreciation. $49K for a 2012? That's still got a lot of depreciation in it when a 2011 with 52K miles is $42K or so.

Stan, let me know when you want to sell the XC90.
 
The 911s were a tad too small for my 6'5 self. I don't agree on there not being enough indy shops that have the proper tools/experience to do work after warrant. There are a few that are certainly more than capable and cost a fraction of the dealership.


911 depending on the year (must have been a older version you were looking at, cause the last 2 generation are plenty spacious, unless you build like a pro footballer) and Panamera are totally different in term of electrical system and complexity. 911 are very simple compare to for example newer Porsche of the last Generation 991. The Panamera was the first approach for Porsche to go into "deeper" water in terms of multifunction, drive assist and infotainment systems. the car has a lot of quirks especially in the early years but has been strongly improved over its lifespan.

again, i guess you know what your are taking about if you were in the market for a Porsche and settled for Audi.
 
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Bro has a Panamera turbo S. What do you want to know? I'll ask him.

EDIT: He had a 911TurboS before the kids got bigger, so I can ask him about that as well.
 
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I've got nothing to add. Jigabeer covered it all pretty well.
 
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