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Question @ cops ventilating an SUV

Can you imagine the look on the crooked cops faces when they found out that they levied bogus charges on an internal affairs officer, priceless!:laughing

Scarier is what do you think the odds that it was isolated and the one time it happened it was an IA guy? If you look at it that way the odds say it's happening quite frequently and they just happened to pick the wrong guy to do it to that time.
 
Scarier is what do you think the odds that it was isolated and the one time it happened it was an IA guy? If you look at it that way the odds say it's happening quite frequently and they just happened to pick the wrong guy to do it to that time.

I would have to agree with you that it probably isnt an isolated incident. The police/leo's have been doing crooked fucked up shit for as long as they have been around, the thing is now with the internet, cell phone cams, dash cams, etc, it makes it harder to sweep it under the rug.
 
yep, because for the one time a camera was there think about how many times a camera wasn't
 
How the fuck do you "hear a pop", "feel an impact to your chest", and fall down yelling you've been shot when nothing happened?

Hey here's an idea, giving guns to people with war flashbacks and having them pull over cars is a super shitty plan.

FIA player?

"absolutely no reason"....

I wasn't there. You weren't there. However, everyone has already passed judgement.

Do you ever get tired of the taste of Kiwi? Their own peers found them to be at-fault. No one in the car was armed, no one found a weapon at the scene and the only ammunition expended was from police firearms.

What will it take before you actually come to your senses and realize that cops are not infallible, that you are not infallible. Your badge doesn't make you right, it just makes you another guy but with a bit of metal on a cheap polyester shirt.
 
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Do you ever get tired of the taste of Kiwi? Their own peers found them to be at-fault. No one in the car was armed, no one found a weapon at the scene and the only ammunition expended was from police firearms.

What will it take before you actually come to your senses and realize that cops are not infallible, that you are not infallible. Your badge doesn't make you right, it just makes you another guy but with a bit of metal on a cheap polyester shirt.


epic :laughing


It's pretty apparent that Rel believes cops never do anything wrong and even if they do they were acting in good faith and deserve no consequences.
 
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This one is a great example of how a cop can totally fuck you. If it was just a normal guy he would have been completely assed out on a whim of 2 stupid pigs.

Can you imagine the look on the crooked cops faces when they found out that they levied bogus charges on an internal affairs officer, priceless!:laughing

Scarier is what do you think the odds that it was isolated and the one time it happened it was an IA guy? If you look at it that way the odds say it's happening quite frequently and they just happened to pick the wrong guy to do it to that time.

This are several reasons for most of the cop bashing.
Everyone has some anecdotal information about a cop trumping up charges and someone getting found guilty.
My favorite in the world of motorcycles:
A cop pulls you over and then looks for a reason to pull you over and then writes the ticket based on what they found after they pulled you over as the probable cause to pull you over...

Rel and the rest of the LEO on barf jump in to defend the cops. Guess what none of them have a clue what is going on. They can only answer for themselves. Problem number two with cops is the "Blue Wall" seen so often on internet forums. Every cop will immediately defend any other cops actions, even if the actions are completely unbelievable to non LEOs. Since the only person who can arrest a cop is another cop this is a conflict of interest and results in an "above the law" attitude and actions.

Cops testimony versus other testimony. This is a fun one. If the other person is dead, then it is the cops testimony vs nothing, look at the Costco shooting. UNLESS...there is video, Bart shooting. If the cop does not kill the other person, they have no weight in their own defense. Cop says you were doing 205 mph on your RC51, you and everyone else who rides a motorcycle laughs at the cop. Judge finds you guilty of going 205 mph.

The post about IAD catching other cops just confirms what we already know, there are dirty cops and not dirty cops. I expect the filth of any cop to be normally distributed like anything in nature. Roll the dice, I wonder what the 1 and 3 sigma distribution looks like.

Guess what people, this has been going on for 100's of years. It is just recently with the internet and the court of public opinion that we get to see any of this. Audio and video recordings of cops discussing what happened and developing a plan to make what they did legal after it was done. Several internet videos of cops making up stories and how they are going to use "Flowery language" to justify their actions.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. The job is rough, we are only human. We are just doing a job. I hear cops saying stuff that they use to rationalize what they do. That Oscar Grant was an idiot or something and had been causing problems his whole life. Is that a death sentence? That after years of of dealing with filth, that is the way thing need to be handled. If you can't follow and obey the law and respect a person's rights then time for a new career. Starbucks is hiring.

Someone needs to get IAD on the street and looking at the cops. That is the only way that the filthy pigs will get removed. I would hope that the other cops would want it. Unless they carry around a little dirt now and then.
 
I know some one who has been shot and he said the impact was comparable to being hit with a sledge hammer full swing. I think you would know if you had been shot.

nope. i got a Ranger buddy who was shoot three times on two different occasions, it took him a minute to realize he had been shot the 2nd time, and the first time he didnt realize it till the medic came up to him and started working on him.
 
TTTom, thank you for providing the follow-up, much appreciated.

nope. i got a Ranger buddy who was shoot three times on two different occasions, it took him a minute to realize he had been shot the 2nd time, and the first time he didnt realize it till the medic came up to him and started working on him.

ar15600rr, did either the unfelt bullet, or the minute-later-realized bullet, hit your friend in the upper chest, as Swanson claimed? Or impact any bone? I think not. I stand by my statement, anyone getting hit by a bullet in the torso, even when wearing a vest, will know the difference between a bullet strike and, maybe, a fart. Although, this is agreeably a moot point, in that Swanson is not said to have dismissed being shot, but rather has been found guilty of having made up being shot.

In spite of the evident tragedy of the entire event, including the trauma inflicted on the two citizens, the further embarrassment of the Salinas police department and especially the Chief of Police, the further diminishment of trust of the citizens of Salinas in their police and the ruin of Swanson's career, I cannot help but smile (internally) at the image of an uninjured Swanson, on his back on the ground, with his boot heels pointed skyward, screaming "I been shot!"

Lex
 
nope. i got a Ranger buddy who was shoot three times on two different occasions, it took him a minute to realize he had been shot the 2nd time, and the first time he didnt realize it till the medic came up to him and started working on him.

I'd imagine it depends on the caliber and the location of the shot. A 9mm at close range will just go through you unless it hits bone, with endorphins it is plausible that you wouldn't notice it for a few seconds. A .45 on the other hand is made specifically to knock you on your ass no matter what is running through your veins.

Of course, this is all based on what little I know about physics; I've never been shot.
 
I worked for five years in a large Chicago hospital. There's no "always" or "typical" when it comes to trauma.

One guy died in the ER from a .22 to the arm (muscle damage only, no artery/vein); guess he thought that shot = killed.

Had a woman take four .357 shots, point blank, through the torso & chest; she was talking, giving the LEOs the name of the guy that shot her.

And Dominic Senese, who was in his 70s at the time, took multiple 12-gauge shotgun blasts to the face and chest; he still managed to drive himself from his driveway gate to his house to tell his family to call an ambulance...
 
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technically it started to be a cop ashing thread right after REL's post :D
 
Jeebus, on how many boards did you post this whiny rant?

Ah, MysterYvil!

1. As I mentioned in my second post, #10 in this thread (appears your attention span isn't up to remembering #10 by the time you've read to #52), I post on two local forums. Looks like you read both of them. Bet ya read all the way through on the other thread, too!

2. You think THIS is a rant? You don't get out much, do you?

3. Appears you're the one whining about my post.

4. But, hey, thanks for your input about the Chicago hospital, I guess that escaped you before you realized you were posting to what you consider to be a whiny rant. Or, maybe reading back and seeing your post, you then decided this thread had become a whiny rant?

LMAO,
Lex
 
I'd imagine it depends on the caliber and the location of the shot. A 9mm at close range will just go through you unless it hits bone, with endorphins it is plausible that you wouldn't notice it for a few seconds. A .45 on the other hand is made specifically to knock you on your ass no matter what is running through your veins.

Of course, this is all based on what little I know about physics; I've never been shot.

was shot in lower back with an ak-47 from about 400m away he still have a dozen hunks of shards that are too dangerous to operate on.
 
TTTom, thank you for providing the follow-up, much appreciated.



ar15600rr, did either the unfelt bullet, or the minute-later-realized bullet, hit your friend in the upper chest, as Swanson claimed? Or impact any bone? I think not. I stand by my statement, anyone getting hit by a bullet in the torso, even when wearing a vest, will know the difference between a bullet strike and, maybe, a fart. Although, this is agreeably a moot point, in that Swanson is not said to have dismissed being shot, but rather has been found guilty of having made up being shot.


Lex

lower back he did have body armour on but it went through.

im not saying the cop should have wouldve couldve shouldve known, the cop is a fucking moron, im just saying its possible to get shot and not know it. i know a medic who got stabbed for not helpong a PT quick enough by the PTs significant other. He didnt know it untill a couple minutes later when the cops asked if he wanted to press charges
 
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