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Rant: drove 1h to test Ducati with no rear brakes...

OP, most people don't use much rear brake at all. You are coming across as someone that is a beginner, just out testing peoples bikes. I mean, after all, you couldn't bump start a bike. And now, you are crying about a rear brake, and bitching about someone's valves sounding out of adjustment, when I don't think you really know.

Anyway, maybe you should just buy a new bike, so you'll have a warranty. When you mentioned in the other thread about the high season and prices, you let the cat out of the bag.

As for fork seals and wheelies, the'll only blow if they weren't right to begin with, either old, or damaged surfaces or hard seals, or dirt underneath them. How do you explain those supercross guys getting 45 feet of air?

Oh, and I do keep my rear foot on the brake when I'm hanging long wheelies, but I never use it just riding around. To blow off a bike because the rear brake isn't set up in beginner mode, you know, those guys that don't use a front brake, shows your lack of experience.
 
But you didn't answer if you'd made an offer on it, reflecting the mechanical deficiency, or if you expect used bikes to be perfect.
 
rear brake issue appears to be fixed on the 2013 and newer. I have about 4,000 miles on my bike and I used my rear brake hard enough to kick in the ABS this morning. (just to see if I still had a rear brake). It is a pretty damn good rear brake.

The problem not mentioned so far is that even IF you bleed the brake properly, only count on a few hundred miles before you don't have a rear brake again. It has been postulated it is heat related issue since it is RIGHT next to CAT which gets insanely hot. You can buy a little heat shield which some have said improves the issue. My rear brake fluid turned jet black in the first couple hundred miles (even without using the rear brake) which suggests there is some validity to the heat argument.
 
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As everyone else has said, it's a known issue on the Multi. Bleed it and it resolves the issue for several thousand miles. I almost never use mine so I don't really care. If you are this chuffed up about it, you should probably look at Honda's or something.
 
mototireguy said:
If the bike was otherwise in good shape you could use this WTF no rear brake item as a negotiating point.

Take $200 off the price for me to fix this brake and we have a deal.
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Only $200? All I saw reading post #1 was discount discount discount. I would quote him with the price of a new Brembo brake set up and and ask for an extra large discount, including dealer installation costs. It could cost a little or alot to fix. Who knows once you dig into it.
 
dowlinginchico said:
Only $200? All I saw reading post #1 was discount discount discount. I would quote him with the price of a new Brembo brake set up and and ask for an extra large discount, including dealer installation costs. It could cost a little or alot to fix. Who knows once you dig into it.
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Again, this is a known issue on that bike.
 
Ya if you expect a modern motorcycle to be free of completely ridiculous problems you don't deserve to call yourself Ducatista...:rolleyes
 
Reillyj said:
Ya if you expect a modern motorcycle to be free of completely ridiculous problems you don't deserve to call yourself Ducatista...:rolleyes
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Who said anything about that? :laughing Besides, I had a Yamaha that ate valves for breakfast. All in all, that problem was WAY worse than having to bleed a rear brake.
 
corndog67 said:
OP, most people don't use much rear brake at all. You are coming across as someone that is a beginner, just out testing peoples bikes. I mean, after all, you couldn't bump start a bike. And now, you are crying about a rear brake, and bitching about someone's valves sounding out of adjustment, when I don't think you really know.

Anyway, maybe you should just buy a new bike, so you'll have a warranty. When you mentioned in the other thread about the high season and prices, you let the cat out of the bag.

As for fork seals and wheelies, the'll only blow if they weren't right to begin with, either old, or damaged surfaces or hard seals, or dirt underneath them. How do you explain those supercross guys getting 45 feet of air?

Oh, and I do keep my rear foot on the brake when I'm hanging long wheelies, but I never use it just riding around. To blow off a bike because the rear brake isn't set up in beginner mode, you know, those guys that don't use a front brake, shows your lack of experience.
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:thumbup
 
weak_link said:
Again, this is a known issue on that bike.
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Understood, but is it the issue on that bike? Maybe? yes. Forsure? no. I find it weird if air got into the system magically. A leak is the only way. or Maybe a wheelie/crash? Otherwise either the master or slave plunger? That would be my bet.
 
dowlinginchico said:
Understood, but is it the issue on that bike? Maybe? yes. Forsure? no. I find it weird if air got into the system magically. A leak is the only way. or Maybe a wheelie/crash? Otherwise either the master or slave plunger? That would be my bet.
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While possible, the issue is so common I wouldn't worry a whole lot about it. He could also make the sale contingent on having a Ducati mechanic check it out and give it a green light before cash actually trades hands. Sounds like he's doing a lot of hand wringing, a multistrata is probably not for him.
 
mitiasbikes said:
Op you have been test riding a lot of bikes lately, should have done your homework...if you ever go test ride first generation Tuono...they dont have any rear brakes either.
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:laughing I wasn't going to say anything.
 
dowlinginchico said:
Understood, but is it the issue on that bike? Maybe? yes. Forsure? no. I find it weird if air got into the system magically. A leak is the only way. or Maybe a wheelie/crash? Otherwise either the master or slave plunger? That would be my bet.
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It isn't air, it isn't a leak, it isn't the master. It's a design flaw on the Multi and/or a heat issue. Again, super common issue, there is no real fix, the Ducati TSB and recommended fix only proved a temporary solution for those that did it. If you want to own an 10-12 Multi, you have to accept the fact that the rear brake will suck at best and be nonexistent at worst. Again, for the 90% of street riders that never use their rear brakes, it's a non-issue.
 
Archimedes said:
Again, for the 90% of street riders that never use their rear brakes, it's a non-issue.
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This statement, while overwhelmingly supported, is only conditionally accurate. For most bikes/riders, rare use of the rear brake is a given. The heavier the bike, the sketchier the traction and the more important judicial use of the front brake becomes, with more reliance on the rear brake.

In my current stable I have bikes where the rear brake rarely gets applied and others, such as my Goldwing, where the rear is more depended on, not only that, the brakes are linked.

Personally I'd hardly consider a rear brake useless and I think this is negligent of Ducati to not correct such a defect. As always, YMMV.
 
OP - quit your bitching... that's the nature of the game when buying used... especially with ducati. Who uses the rear for any serious braking anyways?

I personally would never buy a ducati without the full 2 year warranty (i.e. would not buy a used duc). Even new you'll have a shit ton of issues so expect to be forking out tons of cash on a used duc with no warranty.
 
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