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Receipt checkers at the exits of stores

Mille Racer 69 said:
as for security guards, as lng as you don' acknowledge them,
just look straight ahaead and keep waling, legally they can't stop you,
until you acknowledge them, then they can detain you.
for reciept checkers, no, you don't have to stop.
But I am a super poite person so whenever someone says something to me,
I always listen.
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Security guards :laughing They have the same authority as the owner/manager of the building as far as security issues go, but they can go get fucked when it comes to actually detaining someone, they're just regular ol' citizens.
 
elbacalao said:
For those who believe that you are guilty until proven innocent, then by all means, stop and show them your receipt. Personally, I'm offended by the assumption that I have to prove I havent stolen anything, so I never, ever show my receipt. (I'm not a member of costco, nor would I be for this reason)
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Then you my friend are not getting a years supply of Ketchup for $7.89 :teeth
 
Cheyenne said:
Then why do I see store owners and CEOs driving such fancy cars?
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I remember reading the stories a few months ago about how stores had to cut prices and cut prices because shoppers were being more frugal. Even at 75% discounts, they were still making a profit.
 
frys..

i just walk by if they are checking other people or if theres a line... otherwise if its just me ill show them the ticket. Usually they are nice but its just annyoing.
 
jiffy said:
Why give the guy or gal making $8.00 hr a hard time over it. Most people are just impatient or think it's "cool" to skip by the receipt checker. Believe me they see you trying to sneak by and think it's a d-bag tactic.
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So I should submit to a search simply because some idiot might think badly of me if I don't? Not gonna happen.

There are loss prevention methods that don't involve treating customers like criminals, and if enough people refused to be treated that way, like this guy did, they'd start using them:

http://www.michaelrighi.com/2007/09/01/arrested-at-circuit-city/
 
spddrcr said:
I guess retail stores should take better care of their employee's then as it has been proven time and again that the biggest losses to retail is from their own employee's:thumbup
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This is true. Some retailers are OK to work for, and some don't even have the manpower to bother with answering the phones (Sears). Most have a 100% turnover rate. The fact is that if they paid people more, or had more employees so the few that they had wouldn't be as stressed, there probably would still be the same amount of theft.

Eisernkreuz said:
You were probably the top $ loss district in the nation because you were doing it wrong. Two words: Internal theft.

:twofinger :p

And stores that closed due to external theft were definitely doing it wrong.
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When I worked there, yea, we were. Hell, my Director of Stores (aka district manager) was fired and prosecuted for theft. Soon after though, my boss got a promotion and I was the golden boy. Retail just wasn't the life I wanted, however. I am 10x happier now that I'm not working that shit any more.
 
jiffy said:
Why give the guy or gal making $8.00 hr a hard time over it. Most people are just impatient or think it's "cool" to skip by the receipt checker. Believe me they see you trying to sneak by and think it's a d-bag tactic.
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Because it takes away precious seconds off my life. And time is money. If they feel the need to check receipts, then fucking have people watching their god damn security cameras. Otherwise, I just tell them my receipt is doing just fine and is safe in my pocket. And no, I'm not trying to give them a hard time, they're giving me a hard time. They can think me a d-bag, and I can think them as uneducated saps working dead end jobs.
 
jt2 said:
So I should submit to a search simply because some idiot might think badly of me if I don't? Not gonna happen.

There are loss prevention methods that don't involve treating customers like criminals, and if enough people refused to be treated that way, like this guy did, they'd start using them:

http://www.michaelrighi.com/2007/09/01/arrested-at-circuit-city/
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I read his story and I was all proud of him up until I read that he ultimately caved and let them off the hook. I don't know what he was talking about a months-long protracted case over several hearings and blah blah blah. I think a simple meeting with the judge and DA, with the appropriate laws and statutes in hand would get the charges dismissed "in the interest of justice." But what do I know? I'd probably sign the damn form in order to move on, too.
 
corrupt said:
The bottom line is that the shareholders are focused on the bottom line: money. If it wasn't profitable, it would be happening, or they'd go out of business.
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Yeah, how's that been working out recently? Any companies paying out big bonuses, while the company collapses on the inside?

Oh yeah, he EARNED that 20 Million driving the company into the ground...


I think it's great to pay big bucks when they are deserved...I just think that very few are man enough to not want the big bucks even while they're ruining everything....and some of them know it. Where are the shareholders then? Oh wait, you mean the board of directors is made up of this guy's buddies, and while they helped put him in place as CEO here, he is doing the same for them with other companies where HE is on the board.

I think a lot of smaller businesspeople also have issues with not living beyond their means, even though they REALLY should know better.

I've been in the corporate world a while now...it's taken a long time, but I've seen enough that I no longer even bother to assume that people in management are competent to any degree. So it always gets to be a pleasant surprise when they're not giant disappointments.
 
Cheyenne said:
Yeah, how's that been working out recently? Any companies paying out big bonuses, while the company collapses on the inside?

Oh yeah, he EARNED that 20 Million driving the company into the ground...


I think it's great to pay big bucks when they are deserved...I just think that very few are man enough to not want the big bucks even while they're ruining everything....and some of them know it. Where are the shareholders then? Oh wait, you mean the board of directors is made up of this guy's buddies, and while they helped put him in place as CEO here, he is doing the same for them with other companies where HE is on the board.

I think a lot of smaller businesspeople also have issues with not living beyond their means, even though they REALLY should know better.

I've been in the corporate world a while now...it's taken a long time, but I've seen enough that I no longer even bother to assume that people in management are competent to any degree. So it always gets to be a pleasant surprise when they're not giant disappointments.
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True, Macy's, Sears, and other retailers, they ARE corporations... you do have a point, haha. I guess until things change, we still live in the US.

Really though...I probably feel the same way as you do about corporate America. People say how bad crime is getting and how no one has any sympathy any more.. well just look at the people at the top screwing over thousands of families at once. The Madoffs, the enrons, the list goes on and on. Obviously the problem isn't just with young people.
 
jt2 said:
So I should submit to a search simply because some idiot might think badly of me if I don't? Not gonna happen.

There are loss prevention methods that don't involve treating customers like criminals, and if enough people refused to be treated that way, like this guy did, they'd start using them:

http://www.michaelrighi.com/2007/09/01/arrested-at-circuit-city/
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Some idiot that is just trying to make money to go to college? Some idiot doing his job?

Criminals get strip and cavity searches, pepper spray, and tazers. You simply hand a person your receipt.

You choose to shop where the rule is to check the receipt before you leave. You know this going into that store. Otherwise shop some where else.

954Rider said:
Because it takes away precious seconds off my life. And time is money. If they feel the need to check receipts, then fucking have people watching their god damn security cameras. Otherwise, I just tell them my receipt is doing just fine and is safe in my pocket. And no, I'm not trying to give them a hard time, they're giving me a hard time. They can think me a d-bag, and I can think them as uneducated saps working dead end jobs.
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Yes, you are giving the $8.00 an hour kid a hard time. You know just like the poster above you that they check receipts. Uneducated saps working their way through college at Sam's or Costco... Being D-bag comes natural it seems.
 
jiffy said:
Some idiot that is just trying to make money to go to college? Some idiot doing his job?

Criminals get strip and cavity searches, pepper spray, and tazers. You simply hand a person your receipt.

You choose to shop where the rule is to check the receipt before you leave. You know this going into that store. Otherwise shop some where else.
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Is it a "rule"? Really? Is there a sign that says so going in?

Nope.

Well, perhaps on the website? Let's do a quick search of bestbuy.com and walmartstores.com.

Nothing. (Don't you wonder why? Maybe because they know they can make no such "rule?")

So I'm to take the word of a door-jockey alone that I've somehow consented to an unlawful search, and must prove to them that I'm not a thief?

Not a fucking chance.

Yes, you are giving the $8.00 an hour kid a hard time. You know just like the poster above you that they check receipts. Uneducated saps working their way through college at Sam's or Costco... Being D-bag comes natural it seems.
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Wrong - I know their policy is to ASK if they can check your receipts (unless you're talking about Costco or other membership type club where receipt checks are part of the membership agreement).

I also know that I have the right to say NO.

They know that too, but they hope that most people act like sheep and comply. A game of percentages, I suppose.

for my part, I am not a thief, and will not be treated as one, so I will not allow somebody to rifle through my belongings for many reasons, not least of which is so his ignorant ass won't think less of me somehow.
 
jt2 said:
Is it a "rule"? Really? Is there a sign that says so going in?

Nope.

Well, perhaps on the website? Let's do a quick search of bestbuy.com and walmartstores.com.

Nothing. (Don't you wonder why? Maybe because they know they can make no such "rule?")

So I'm to take the word of a door-jockey alone that I've somehow consented to an unlawful search, and must prove to them that I'm not a thief?

Not a fucking chance.



Wrong - I know their policy is to ASK if they can check your receipts (unless you're talking about Costco or other membership type club where receipt checks are part of the membership agreement).

I also know that I have the right to say NO.

They know that too, but they hope that most people act like sheep and comply. A game of percentages, I suppose.

for my part, I am not a thief, and will not be treated as one, so I will not allow somebody to rifle through my belongings for many reasons, not least of which is so his ignorant ass won't think less of me somehow.
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We are talking mainly of membership type clubs, Sam's, Costco, Bj's, etc. So, yes you do agree to this when you sign up for a membership. You also are fully aware of this policy at Fry's and other stores that you may shop at. You have the right to shop somewhere else that does not infringe upon your search and seizure rights.

It is clear from your couple of posts that it is not "cool" to stop for the receipt check. The "sheep" are the only ones who would "comply" with such an unlawful threat to our individual freedoms.

Try that attitude at the airport next time, and let us know how you don't have to "comply".

Happy Easter :party
 
jiffy said:
We are talking mainly of membership type clubs, Sam's, Costco, Bj's, etc. So, yes you do agree to this when you sign up for a membership. You also are fully aware of this policy at Fry's and other stores that you may shop at. You have the right to shop somewhere else that does not infringe upon your search and seizure rights.

It is clear from your couple of posts that it is not "cool" to stop for the receipt check. The "sheep" are the only ones who would "comply" with such an unlawful threat to our individual freedoms.

Try that attitude at the airport next time, and let us know how you don't have to "comply".

Happy Easter :party
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Your logic is faulty; first off, not everyone is fully aware of fry's policy (or other stores where explicit membership terms are not in effect). Second, you will notice at Fry's that the bag check is not policy, it is a "courtesy" (a perverse interpretation of the word for sure, but the word they have chosen nonetheless). Read the sign by the checker.

Now as for the more down to earth aspects of the bag check, I agree with you; if there is no line, just let the poor schmuck take a peek. There are more important things to take a principled stand over. I will only skip the bagcheck when there is a queue and it will inconvenience me by more than 5 seconds.
 
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