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Yes, I'm bored but was just wondering what may have caused this to occur:
-rider pulled over by LEO
-field sobriety test given
-rider parks bike at curb
-rider takes taxi home/wherever
Was rider not under the influence enough to require or allow for arrest?
Just wondering.
 
I was a taxi driver for a few weeks; couldn't handle the meth. :toothless

Those were the most annoying calls, although for me they always came from bars. It was, "Hey, cabbie - pick up this drunk guy who just got kicked out of the bar and take him home. Good luck getting a tip." The fare would usually bitch about how he was gonna kick so-and-so's ass, and curse. A lot."

:dunno Maybe the guy was a cop...
 
Why would the rider need to take a taxi home if he/she wasnt under the influence?

If the rider was over the legal limit and the officer didnt take him/her into custody, the officer should be fired.
 
Rel said:
Why would the rider need to take a taxi home if he/she wasnt under the influence?
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Maybe the rider wasn't under the influence of anything but was extremely tired and the stop made him realize he was in no condition to continue. Or maybe the stop made the rider realize that even though he technically wasn't under the influence his riding was impaired enough to have been noticed so the he decided to park the bike.

If I was ever stopped and given a sobriety test I sure as hell would not get back behind the wheel unless I was stone cold sober. There's no way I would press my luck. Plus I fully expect a cop will follow anyone they just gave a sobriety test watching for them to screw up again so they can pull them over again.
 
Traq said:
Maybe the rider wasn't under the influence of anything but was extremely tired and the stop made him realize he was in no condition to continue. Or maybe the stop made the rider realize that even though he technically wasn't under the influence his riding was impaired enough to have been noticed so the he decided to park the bike.

If I was ever stopped and given a sobriety test I sure as hell would not get back behind the wheel unless I was stone cold sober. There's no way I would press my luck. Plus I fully expect a cop will follow anyone they just gave a sobriety test watching for them to screw up again so they can pull them over again.
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First of all, this whole (scenario) is full of problems...

1. If the officer gave the rider FST's *Field Soberity tests*, and the person was not arrested, then the rider should be allowed to leave.

2. Would you park your vehicle and take a cab home? Why? Makes no sense. What would the rider do if they came back and found their vehicle gone, vandalized, damaged? Would they blame the cops, you bet.

People get pulled over all the time for bad driving. At night, we look for DUI drivers. Just because someone is pulled over, and given tests, does not mean they are drunk. The tests are completed, and they drive away. Not everyone stopped is drunk.

There is no logical reason for a sober, meaning not impaired, driver to leave their vehicle and take a cab home.

Lastly, there is no reason to stop someone, check them for DUI, then allow them to leave, only to stop them again. You're comment about "fully expect a cop will follow anyone they just gave a sobriety test watching for them to screw up again so they can pull them over again." is disheartening. Don't lump a few bad cops in with all the good ones.
 
VTRweasel said:
Maybe they were out of gas or broke down. :dunno
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That would work if the officer came upon the vehicle stopped on the shoulder. However, if the officer made an enforcement stop the vehicle, and driver, would be allowed to leave.

To suddenly, run out of gas, or have a mechanical problem, is unlikely.

It's only a matter of time before this thread spirals out of control into a cop bashing thread.
 
Maybe the guy was 14601 or maybe the bike was 22651(o) and the unit didn't feel like towing it. Then the guy decided to take a cab home to get a truck to come back and pick the bike up. The FST's were just done to rule out him being duece.
 
whipper said:
Maybe the guy was 14601 or maybe the bike was 22651(o) and the unit didn't feel like towing it. Then the guy decided to take a cab home to get a truck to come back and pick the bike up. The FST's were just done to rule out him being duece.
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I was thinking maybe he didn't have an M1 endorsement, but he turned out not to be DUI.
 
whipper said:
Maybe the guy was 14601 or maybe the bike was 22651(o) and the unit didn't feel like towing it. Then the guy decided to take a cab home to get a truck to come back and pick the bike up. The FST's were just done to rule out him being duece.
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It's all about liability. Why would the officer take the chance on letting a suspended driver go away, only to come back and get the vehicle. Why would we not tow a vehicle for expired reg? We don't do FST's just to rule out being DUI. Its an investigation, not a fishing trip.

OldFatGuy said:
I was thinking maybe he didn't have an M1 endorsement, but he turned out not to be DUI.
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If he didnt have an M1 endorsement, tow the bike.

Don't park the vehicle so that someone can damage or steal it. Don't open yourself up to getting sued.
 
Rel said:
If he didnt have an M1 endorsement, tow the bike.

Don't park the vehicle so that someone can damage or steal it. Don't open yourself up to getting sued.
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I realize towing the bike would be the smartest thing to do from the officer's standpoint, but is it a requirement? What if the rider asked him to leave it so he could take a cab home to get his roommate who has a M1 endorsement to ride it home? (for example)

Also, did the officer leave the scene when the rider did? Is it possible the cab just arrived before the tow truck?
 
Rel said:
First of all, this whole (scenario) is full of problems...

1. If the officer gave the rider FST's *Field Soberity tests*, and the person was not arrested, then the rider should be allowed to leave.
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Sure, but if I was that person these are the thoughts that would be running through my head..."wow, I just got lucky"..."I must be driving worse than I thought since I drew the cop's attention and got stopped"..."I really don't want to risk $10,000 in fines, lawyer fees, and increased insurance costs, I'm calling a taxi and leaving this thing here."

Rel said:
2. Would you park your vehicle and take a cab home? Why? Makes no sense. What would the rider do if they came back and found their vehicle gone, vandalized, damaged? Would they blame the cops, you bet.
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I already said I would. Why? Because I am not a gambler. $10k is a lot of money to me. It simply is not worth the risk that I won't get stopped again before I got home and fail the tests that time. I have insurance on my vehicles that covers me if it gets stolen or vandalized, that is a complete and total non-argument. Why would parking it after being stopped be any different than parking it any other time? :wtf

You're probably thinking parking it on a freeway somewhere...in my mind this hypothetical scenario is happening on city streets. I wouldn't leave it on the side of 880, but it would be sitting in the gas station's parking lot at the next exit for SURE.

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Lastly, there is no reason to stop someone, check them for DUI, then allow them to leave, only to stop them again. You're comment about "fully expect a cop will follow anyone they just gave a sobriety test watching for them to screw up again so they can pull them over again." is disheartening. Don't lump a few bad cops in with all the good ones.
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Bad cop? Actually I would consider that a good cop.

Unless they were stopped for something stupid like peeling out or revving the engine and then the cop smelled alcohol on their breath and gave them the FSTs...I assumed the driver was stopped because the officer observed deficient driver indicative of impairment (poor lane discipline, slow reactions, etc). Just cause they manage to pass once doesn't mean they aren't getting drunker with time (slam a couple for the road!)...follow them and see if the behavior was corrected or is getting worse.
 
Rel said:
Why would the rider need to take a taxi home if he/she wasnt under the influence?

If the rider was over the legal limit and the officer didnt take him/her into custody, the officer should be fired.
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I'll disagree on this one boss....

Our policy does not prohibit us from taking a DUI home, or putting them in a taxi and telling them they're not allowed to drive until they're sober. We're given discretion even in the case of a DUI, and we're not open to lawsuits because we're not violating our written policy when we do so.

Now if the person can't obviously get home, doesn't have money, keys, etc. etc., well then we'd have a hard time explaining how we *reasonably* believed they were going home. Oddly enough, on the towing issue.... our department doesn't allow us to tow for unlicensed driver. Go figure.

I've let DUI's go home (not drive) in the past. I don't do it anymore, merely because I choose not to, but it's not against our policy and I know of more than one officer who does it on a regular basis.
 
To each their own.

You're telling me that if you had a person who blew over a .08, while operating a motor vehicle, you'd let them go?

Wow.
 
9M61 said:
I've let DUI's go home (not drive) in the past. I don't do it anymore, merely because I choose not to, but it's not against our policy and I know of more than one officer who does it on a regular basis.
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I'm sorry, but thats a load of crap.

That person endangered everyone around him and you let him go? :wtf

You should be ashamed of yourself and you and the other officer should be fired.

...to serve and (selectively) protect.
 
Back in the old days it was common. DUI was not briskly prosecuted as it is now. I was stopped once for driving under the influence ( or rather I was stopped and was under the influence) and the officer looked at my ID, told me I was drunk, and to park the car and walk home. And that if he saw me driving again that day I was going to jail. Those days are gone, thankfully.
 
afm199 said:
Back in the old days it was common. DUI was not briskly prosecuted as it is now. I was stopped once for driving under the influence ( or rather I was stopped and was under the influence) and the officer looked at my ID, told me I was drunk, and to park the car and walk home. And that if he saw me driving again that day I was going to jail. Those days are gone, thankfully.
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Yep, that was the old days.... but not anymore.

I was watching COPS the other night, and after some deputy checked this gal for DUI, which she was (blew way over the legal limit on the PAS), he let her go... I was stunned.
 
The DUI LOL

There are more people DRIVING on the roads these days under a doctors prescribed narcotic or narcotics that are not arrested
 
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