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Riding across the country?

Aluisious

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San Jose
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2016 Multistrada 1200S
Name
Frank
So I had a look at some clips of "Long Way Round" and it planted an idea in my head...ride across the country (and back?). I've thought about driving across the country but that's kinda easy/lame, a ride would be much more entertaining.

Two main questions come to mind:

1) What kind of bike would be best suited? I imagine something with a comfortable riding position, a long range gas tank, the ability to carry some extra clothing and water/food would be the way to go. I love my F4 but I'd punt a puppy before I had to ride it 6k miles continuously.

2) Where to get such a bike? I'm not so rich that I can just run around buying new bikes for such projects. Would it be better to try a buy used/sell afterward transaction (taxes, iffy reliability?) or would renting be the better way to go? I never rented a bike, if they charge by mileage that wouldn't really work.

PS I did a search and all I found was a blog with nice pictures, not logistical advice. So save the "OMFG USE T3H SEARCH!" heckling.
 
It would appear that Sir has reached the point in his riding career where he needs to get his ass over to Adventure Rider.....:ride

You also need a GS, you can either come to that conclusion after a lot of research and soul-searching or I can just tell you. You choose..... ;)

Oh and if you put it off for a couple of years or so, I might even show you the way there and back.......:laughing
 
Buy used and sell after. You'll lose HUGE amounts of money if you go the rental route...not because of milage, but just because it costs a lot of money to rent a bike in the first place.

What bike to get? That's up to you. Tank range should be a factor but if you plan right and you're staying in the US, you'll be fine with gas no matter what you're on. Goldwing? Cruiser? Sport Cruiser? Sport Tourer? Tourer? What kind of riding do you want to do on your way over and back? All freeway, all twisty? a little of both? Buy a bike you'll be happy with for the long haul. Your F4 could make it no problems, I know a girl who rode here to California from Quebec on her F2...made it in 3 days! We rode all around the bay area, up to Yosemite, down to LA, back to the bay, then she went home. If she can do it, you can too.

If you do ride across country I can tell you, sometime during your trip you'll have an event happen you didn't plan for...best is to be flexible, take it as it comes and enjoy the adventure.

Get a bike you'll be happy with and do it. Tell us about it when you get back, take lots of pictures so I can be jealous.
 
i've done this before..

whichever bike you decide to do this on, do yourself a favor and get a throttle lock and a windshield....
 
and heated grips, and hard luggage, and supplemental lighting, and a good all weather suit, and .............................................................
 
V-Strom! :D

srsly, I've always wanted to ride cross-country too (so far I've only been as far east as Austin, Texas), but I can easily see doing it on my DL650. I have an Aerostich, Gerbings, a top case, and a cell phone, so I'm good to go. All I need is time and money. :(
 
PS I did a search and all I found was a blog with nice pictures, not logistical advice. So save the "OMFG USE T3H SEARCH!" heckling.

This is all you need to go coast-to-coast-to-coast

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Spare water, tire repair kit, rain gear, phone, some food bars, maps, and the will to do it.

Dead stock bike, no cruise, no special seat, and only running on three cylinders. 7800 miles in 11 days.

Just takes the will to go see the country unfold, and prepare to stop and help other MC riders you see on the side of the road. Also, be prepared for crazy weather.

Aside from that, anyone can do it with a minimum of planning (not to downplay the possible dangers, but use common sense and you don't have to spend months planning the damned trip).

If you haven't done a long trip, start smaller, go to colorado or something (just not now, when you are going to be playing snow monkey up in the mountains).
 
The GS seems like a gigantic bike...I stood next to one in a parking lot and had the impression I'd need a ladder to get on the thing.

"Start small" is probably good advice. Once the weather clears up, maybe I'll just head to LA and back on the F4.

I'm thinking I'd do a cross country trip during summer. It's just easier. And I'd stay in motels, I'm not big on camping :p
 
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Get a GS. :D

I did roughly 5,000+ miles on my GS last summer over two weeks and loved it.

I was able to carry all my camping gear, tools, plus clothing on my bike with three panniers, AND I had one pannier that was almost empty. The aluminum panniers are awesome. Hell, I even hauled three bundles of wood back to camp in them. :thumbup Get a large Ortlieb bag to hold stuff in that you want to keep dry, it's worth the money.

The almost 9 gallon gas tank is great, the windshield is nice and the heated grips are awesome. I've also dumped it twice in sand with no real damage at all.

The best part was unloading the gear at the campsite and then heading off on non-paved roads to see what was out there.

I :love my GSA and would totally recommend it.

I hooked up with a friend to for the first part of the trip. He has a Suzuki 650 Wee Strom, a great inexpensive bike. After the first week, my gf flew to where I was and rode back to San Jose with me. (camping gear was mailed home when she arrived)
 

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Yeah, it's a bit tall but you get used to the height pretty quickly, then you start to really like how tall you are. If you don't have a good size inseam, you might have a hard time flat footing the bike. I'm 5'11 with a 34 inseam and am on the balls of my feet.

+1 on Valgars comment on bringing good rain gear.
 
The GS seems like a gigantic bike...I stood next to one in a parking lot and had the impression I'd need a ladder to get on the thing.

"Start small" is probably good advice. Once the weather clears up, maybe I'll just head to LA and back on the F4.

I'm thinking I'd do a cross country trip during summer. It's just easier. And I'd stay in motels, I'm not big on camping :p


Yeah, I'm not exactly a camping fan myself...I've lived long enough that I feel I can treat myself to a warm room, and a proper toilet.

If I were you, I would go *past* LA...in a couple weeks I'm riding down to San Clemente for the night and then back (riding down for dinner).

Getting through LA can really wear you out though, even if you try to avoid the major highways.
 
Getting through LA can really wear you out though, even if you try to avoid the major highways.

+1. Unless you have some specific reason to visit LA, your "shakedown cruise" might best be accomplished elsewhere. North and east are very good directions to go -- though not this time of year.
 
+1 on the GS recommendations.

You can't go wrong with a bike that was built specifically for that purpose.
Also, it's helpful to dig up the names of as many shops as possible along your route before you go (Google's "find nearby businesses" feature on their map tool is awesome for this). It's always better to have a printout of local shops in your tank bag instead of having to flip through soaking wet yellow pages in a phone booth only to find the entire "motorcycle repair" section missing.

Taking a test-ride down to LA is definitely a good start. It's a difficult ride (from the sheer boredom of it, the retarded drivers & the horrid smell of Cowschwitz) but it's a good barometer to help you decide if you're really up for a nation-wide tour.

Good luck!
 
In 1995 wife and I did it on a 93 HD Dyna Low Rider, with no windscreen, two up. We had saddle bags, and a miniscule luggage rack with a duffle bag strapped on. Worked fine. Did Route 66 as much as possible, from Chicago to LA (~2400 miles). We used the book, Route 66 Traveler's Guide, 2nd Ed (Tom Snyder) - it provides a great rundown of where the old road is (most of it is not marked anymore), and what some of the cool sites/stops/eating joints are to take in. I made notes in the margins along the ride, and reading those now still makes me smile.

Since then I've done long rides on a 96 VFR, and various other Harley baggers. I think the GS is a great suggestion, too - my friends have em and love em. Spendy to buy and maintain compared to other bikes. There are those would tell you that some of the other dual sports would also work fine if you mounted up some bags. V-strom, KLR, and Tiger, to name a few.

Route 66 isn't coast to coast, but it is historically an important part of US history, so a good road to follow. US 50 is also supposed to be great, and it goes all the way. One thing I did learn is that if I were only going one direction (flying back), I'd be tempted to go West to East, rather than East to West. You spend more time in the saddle with sun at your back that way, rather than in your face.

Have fun!
 
For on-road touring I really enjoy my Duc ST4s...
It held up extremely well for an 8 day 4k mile ride loop up into Canada and the US east coast. Comfortable, Sporty, and lots of luggage space...
 

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I can give you some feed back based on some of my experiences, the most recent being this:
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You don't need a GS unless you want to do casual off roading. Get a touring bike of some kind. It's designed for the job. It should get 200+ miles per tank (typically a 5 gal tank) and will have a more relaxed riding position than a sportbike, making the day after day of clocking hundreds of miles less painful. In other words, do you want to have an enjoyable trip or do you want to go on some rite of manhood across the country where you endure a daily ordeal for a few months?

A windshield is a necessity. A fairing is preferable. Heated grips will come in very handy, as will electric gear. Without them, you will endure some extremely painful rides over mountain ranges. Especially when it rains or snows. And it will.

Get over the idea of sport riding on the trip. With your bike loaded to the gills with stuff, you're not going to be getting close to dragging knee unless you're in serious need of psychiatric aid. That doesn't mean you can't maintain a brisk pace on the twisties, but I did that on my Harley and it's got a more comfortable seat and twice the luggage of a GS or sportbike. And my knees didn't get sore from hours on the road, either. No need to drag my toes on the pavement. I'm not saying you should get a Harley, but what I mentioned as far as comfort is something you should consider. It's a LONG trip.

I planned my route in advance. I checked for gas station availability although I didn't plan each gas stop. I just made sure there'd be gas and planned a few stops on parts that required it. If the bike you get requires premium gas, get some octane boost. You may run into spots that only have 87 octane. I did plan where I would stay each night, either camping or motel.

I personally don't care about the miles per day I clock. That's irrelevant. What matters is hours in the saddle. I like to cap it at 6.5-7 hours of saddle time max. That generally equates to 8-9 hours of travel time including breaks. This gives me time to stop and see the country I'm going through and gets some distance but not leaving me dog tired at the end of every day. Doing that will exhaust you in short order.

I cannot stress the value of taking breaks no more than 90 minutes apart. 5 minutes isn't enough. At least 10 minutes off the bike, not sitting. I often doubled them up with gas stops.

Always carry water. And trail mix or some kind of nourishing munchie.

A tool kit and first aid kit are handy. I didn't need mine. Not even a flat! :)

I didn't go across the country, but I clocked 8300 miles in 30 days and went as far east as halfway across South Daktota to the Badlands. That's almost enough mileage to go to the East Coast, back here and back to the East Coast again.

Get that expensive underwear made by ex officio. 3 pair is all you need. You can rinse em in the sink, wring em out and they'll be dry by morning most of the time. Don't carry laundry detergent, even in a bag. It'll get out. 3 days of clothing is probably enough. Extra socks, especially thick ones are a must. A rainsuit obviously.

Charge your cell and camera batteries every chance you get. There may be times when you don't have the chance. Possibly for a couple days. Buy extra camera batteries. 3 was enough for me. I hooked up a cigarette lighter adapator on the bike and got car chargers so the bike would charge my cell on the road. The camera charger was AC only. If I could get a car version, I would. I have a 3 outlet adaptor. :)

Hard bags are the only way to go. They will keep your shit dry, are easier to put on and remove and are more secure. But take them into your hotel room if you aren't camping. Bring a bike cover and use it. A dry seat in the morning is very nice.

Bring micro fiber towels. A couple is probably fine. Hopefully you won't have a bike that needs you to bring a quart of oil. I didn't. I didn't carry a gas can, either.

Sunscreen is a must. You'll get sunburned under the visor. I had the reverse raccoon tan for a month after I got back from my sunglasses.

Pack everything into as few bags as possible. The more bags you have bungied on that are separate, the more likely they'll shift around, pop off a hook and dump your crap on the road. Less bags are easier to load and more stable. Even with hardbags, if you camp, you'll have extra shit bungied on. If not, you can probably do the trip with just hardbags. But it'll cost quite a bit more.

Plan your bike maintenance in advance. You will need tires. Figure out where on your trip you will need them. Schedule an appt. Take a spot 2/3 of the way there and look for alternatives from there all the way to your scheduled stop. Your wear may be more than you estimate. Fall back options are good. You will likely need to have one regular maintenance done. Plan that one and schedule it in advance. Confirm the appt before you leave. If your trip is long enough, you may need more than one. And several tire changeouts, too!

I brought my laptop and posted updates and pictures as I went whenever I was able to get internet access. I upgraded my cell phone plan to unlimited data and used it as a modem. It's slow, but it got me online when nothing else would. And if the motel or campsite had wifi, great. Even better. What was neat about that is I'd post about the last day or few days while it was fresh in my mind. Instead of when I got home as the early days of the trip had faded.

Pack light. Then take 1/4 of what you packed and ask yourself if you REALLY need it. you can buy stuff on the way and you'll want to keep some room for stuff you buy on the way. Every week or so, ship stuff home.

Get your mail on hold. If you're gone over 30 days, you'll need someone to pick it up for you as the post office won't hold it more than 30 days.

There's probably a ton of things I've left out. If you want to check out the thread of my trip, check out this link:

MNB's Big Ass Ride™ (BAR™)

I called it as I experienced it, the highs, the painful lows, everything. The worst being freezing your ass off. In early September. Do NOT ship your winter gear home because you haven't needed it for a week. Repeat, do NOT. Trust me on that one. No matter what the average temps are for all the areas you're travelling in. Half my trip was 20 degrees below average for that time of year. Shipping extra gear home proved to be a painful mistake.

It will be an ordeal no matter how much work you put into making it comfortable. It will be something you take with you for life. It will be a life changing/altering experience. You will meet many kind and generous people. And probably a few dicks driving big rigs, too.
 
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+1. Unless you have some specific reason to visit LA, your "shakedown cruise" might best be accomplished elsewhere. North and east are very good directions to go -- though not this time of year.

I went to school in LA so I've got a soft spot for the city (crazy huh?).

1 down and 101 up would be a pretty good way to go IMO.
 
Get yourself something with some wind protection and hard bags. And shaft drive. Good used Honda ST1100's can be had for under 5 grand. And they're stone reliable. Just make sure you get a 96 or newer because it's got the greatly superior 40 amp charging system. Though sometimes you'll find earlier years that have been upgraded.

However, if you plan on doing any amount of riding on dirt roads, a dual sport is the way to go. A BMW if you've got the bucks. Or maybe the Suzuki. Don't ride anything smaller than a 650.
 
Our own Chiara and his one lap around:

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=178505

A more upright bike is better, but a F4 isn't so bad. See if you can find a pair of bar-risers. State of mind carries more weight :)

Starting-out small (3- to 4-day trips) is a good way of filtering down or developing a packing list. You can pack all the recommended tools you can get your hands on, but if you aren't mechanically inclined to use them... They are just dead-weights. In that case, work on developing a few mechanical emergency plans. Examples:

If I am broken down by the side of the road... I can hitch a ride to the nearest Ryder rental for a box truck... and then swing by a Home Depot for a 2X4. Or...

Call my buddy to help me locate the nearest moto dealer/shop.

Don't over-pack. You can buy most things along the way if you need them. Bring things that you'll use everyday, and those *impossible* to acquire at a moment's notice.

BARF's very first annual rally this summer maybe a good place to start! :thumbup
 
Anyone can tour on a touring bike. Take the F4, pack light, stay off the interstate, and take a couple weeks. :thumbup

Make sure to get some type of roadside assistance like HRC or AMA offers.
 
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