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San Francisco to scooter startups: Your customers are terrible

295566 said:
I agree with you whole-heartedly. There's a HUGE difference in "kindness" between here and say, South Carolina (race issues aside). In the Bay Area, I've noticed that people seem to be "nice" to others as a status symbol, like wearing Lululemon leggings or carrying a Starbucks coffee cup. Something you can post to Instagram and show everyone how great you are.
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Wow..someone please explain to me what does it mean "being nice" when you're wearing tight athletic (?) pants or having a Starbucks coffee cup??
Like how do these relate???
Do you mean to say something like cute or cool ??

I dunno I'm afraid that shows prejudice against people carrying certain cute things...

As for the South, I can't say I believe anything about the Nice South. When I arrived at the airport in DFW Texas, maybe it's not the South, but the first thing I saw was a woman hitting a man's leg on purpose with her suitcase from the carousel. Granted, he was reading his cellphone but I call BS on "south = nice".
You say it yourself: "aside from like 50% of the issues"

San Francisco may justifiably be more like New York City, where everyone is more hurried, as compared to a state with more space and more heat
 
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Unfortunately, I find southern people more obsessed with appearing nice and having southern stereotypical attributes than being actually nice. And if you're a racist you're inherently not a nice person.
 
My best guess is that most of the anti-scooter hate is primarily anti-tech and directed at an obvious aspect of tech, rather than being due to actions of the scooter companies/riders.
 
It's two aspects:

- They honestly did just dump them anywhere
- The riders are acting like assholes

Other than that, it's a good business model. Just like GoBikes, install a dock.
 
Killroy1999 said:
It sounds like the little scooters are small and easy to abuse. Bike share and the regular size scooters (Scoot) are a relativly in good condition. Scoot is fun for people that don't normally ride scooters or motorcycles.
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These guys are the worst ones though. Those people in the Scoots are the ones terrorizing all of the commute, splitting lanes on the right hand side, driving on sidewalks and shit. They have no Class M and no idea of what a responsible Lane Share is. They put bikers at risk like every day doing fucked up lane placement and right of way failures because they aren't licensed.
 
One thing I'm not sure how to react: They have these electric "full sized" scooters (i.e. the kind you sit on, like a miniature moto), but are small enough (and electric) to not require a license plate or license.

When I saw a lady riding this in the bike lane I almost lost it. It is not a bicycle (neither are skateboards or standing razor scooters). At what point do we say enough? What if some guy invents an electric 4 wheel car like a Barbie Car and starts riding it on the bicycle lane?
 
HappyHighwayman said:
One thing I'm not sure how to react: They have these electric "full sized" scooters (i.e. the kind you sit on, like a miniature moto), but are small enough (and electric) to not require a license plate or license.

When I saw a lady riding this in the bike lane I almost lost it. It is not a bicycle (neither are skateboards or standing razor scooters). At what point do we say enough? What if some guy invents an electric 4 wheel car like a Barbie Car and starts riding it on the bicycle lane?
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HappyHighwayman said:
One thing I'm not sure how to react: They have these electric "full sized" scooters (i.e. the kind you sit on, like a miniature moto), but are small enough (and electric) to not require a license plate or license.

When I saw a lady riding this in the bike lane I almost lost it. It is not a bicycle (neither are skateboards or standing razor scooters). At what point do we say enough? What if some guy invents an electric 4 wheel car like a Barbie Car and starts riding it on the bicycle lane?
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Yeah, dude, that is what these guys are doing. Full blown road anarchy. They ride them everywhere. Bicycle lanes, sidewalks, splitting on the right, the full monty.
 
I also find car drivers love to speed up on the left to "get ahead of you bicycle guys" only to get caught at the light and then have all the bicyclists go around them anyway.

I do the same root every single day. I know the lights. You are not making it.
 
two wheel tramp said:
:rolleyes

You had to take it there, didn't you?
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Sorry, let me edit. Even San Franciscan's have a breaking point...

But c'mon, anyone can see the problems facing SF right now are a direct result of some of the ridiculous ultra liberal policies of city government.
 
HappyHighwayman said:
One thing I'm not sure how to react: They have these electric "full sized" scooters (i.e. the kind you sit on, like a miniature moto), but are small enough (and electric) to not require a license plate or license.

When I saw a lady riding this in the bike lane I almost lost it. It is not a bicycle (neither are skateboards or standing razor scooters). At what point do we say enough? What if some guy invents an electric 4 wheel car like a Barbie Car and starts riding it on the bicycle lane?
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https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/scooters it's legal to ride a (standing) motorized scooter in the bicycle lane. hell, it's often required.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=21235 has most of the laws that apply to them
21235.
The operator of a motorized scooter shall not do any of the following:

(b) Operate a motorized scooter on a highway with a speed limit in excess of 25 miles per hour unless the motorized scooter is operated within a class II bicycle lane.
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Are electric scooters considered motorized?

According to that link you're not allowed two people on a scooter which I see all the time.
 
AbsolutEnduser said:
Wow..someone please explain to me what does it mean "being nice" when you're wearing tight athletic (?) pants or having a Starbucks coffee cup??
Like how do these relate???
Do you mean to say something like cute or cool ??

I dunno I'm afraid that shows prejudice against people carrying certain cute things...

As for the South, I can't say I believe anything about the Nice South. When I arrived at the airport in DFW Texas, maybe it's not the South, but the first thing I saw was a woman hitting a man's leg on purpose with her suitcase from the carousel. Granted, he was reading his cellphone but I call BS on "south = nice".
You say it yourself: "aside from like 50% of the issues"

San Francisco may justifiably be more like New York City, where everyone is more hurried, as compared to a state with more space and more heat
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Wow this post is so facepalm I don't even know where to begin. : |

Did you miss the part about how it's used as a status symbol? Like how some choose to wear a certain brand. As a status symbol. I meant it exactly how I typed it.

And how the eff can you equate behavior exhibited at an airport (a huge, international, often used as layover airport at that) by people who may not even live in that area, as representative of an entire geographical area? Talk about broad brush...
 
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