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Spacely Sprockets or Cogswell Cogs?

assnelbo

assnelbo

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I am replacing my chain and sprockets. I got a DID chain, but I have yet to purchase the sprockets.

I have found a lot of aftermarket manufacturers and I am wondering if there are some to stay away from, and if you folks have any personal favorites. JT seems to be pretty cheap...Anything wrong with them?

I already have a new chain - it's a DID, supposedly a higher than average quality chain (it retailed for $100+, and it is a rivet type, not a clip type).
 
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assnelbo said:
I am replacing my chain and sprockets. I got a DID chain, but I have yet to purchase the sprockets.

I have found a lot of aftermarket manufacturers and I am wondering if there are some to stay away from, and if you folks have any personal favorites. JT seems to be pretty cheap...Anything wrong with them?

I already have a new chain - it's a DID, supposedly a higher than average quality chain (it retailed for $100+, and it is a rivet type, not a masterlink chain).
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sprocket specialists are nice...their stealth sprocket is cool....all chains have masterlinks..either rivet link or clip link. you have a rivet masterlink.
 
My fuckin DID VM-series X-Ring didn't even last me 10K miles. The stock one lasted 18K. I bought the hype too but the chain spoke for itself. It's not as though it was poorly maintained either, I cleaned/lubed the chain regularly. By the time we took it off at 10K miles the masterlink was kinked and another 3-link section was kinked.

The Sprocket Specialists sprockets (that we put on the same time as the chain) were in pretty bad shape at 10K miles as well. The front had a couple of nasty dips and the rear actually had 3 snapped teeth and the rest were sharking.

Admittedly I didn't check the sprockets as much as I checked the chain so I don't know which started to go bad first. But needless to say I'm not running the DID and Sprocket Specialist combo again.
 
"My fuckin DID VM-series X-Ring didn't even last me 10K miles."

Maybe that's because you got the wrong fuckin DID chain. The ERv2 is the strongest DID chain made.


AFAM sprockets have performed the best for me. I'm going to put an RRP sprocket on the 929 next because AFAM has been back ordered for a while now for Marchesini Wheels. They have a good stock of factory wheel sprockets of any make though.
 
I've been running AFAM chain, and sprockets and I have been very happy.
I usually buy the kits because they are cheaper that way.
 
Port4mance said:
Sprocket Specialists :thumbup There in Sac so you will get them quick. I usually run aluminum with Titan Tough coating.
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Another vote for Sprocket Specialists. My Titan Tough rear has held up surprisingly well, especially compared to my worn out non-SS steel front. Be warned though - if you order the Titan Tough option (hard anodized), be prepared to wait two or more weeks, as I am right now. They send the sprockets out for the hard anodizing process, which delays things a week or two. Titan Tough will last longer though.
 
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levitation said:
all chains have masterlinks..
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Not true. Some chains are manufactured as continous chains - that is they are manufactured in a loop. They are stonger, and generally come stock on most bikes (except for later model sportbikes that come with heavily braced swingarms).

The disadvantage - they're real expesive and you have to remove the swingarm to replace them.

As to sprockets, I'm fond of steel ones. Cheap and durable. As to the extra weight... you can drop more weight with a visit to the bathroom.
 
Sprocket Specialists get another vote by me...

DID and AFAM sprocket.

Scorp, something really wrong musta happened :( Bummer dude.
 
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shortdogg said:
Not true. Some chains are manufactured as continous chains - that is they are manufactured in a loop. They are stonger, and generally come stock on most bikes (except for later model sportbikes that come with heavily braced swingarms).

The disadvantage - they're real expesive and you have to remove the swingarm to replace them.

As to sprockets, I'm fond of steel ones. Cheap and durable. As to the extra weight... you can drop more weight with a visit to the bathroom.
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Never in my life have I seen a continueous chain on any motorcycle. I'm not calling you a liar, I've just never seen one. Please let me know of any that have one because I would love to see it.
Model, brand, year, anything.
 
Thanks for all the replies.


My shop manual actually says that you should get a continuous chain, but I have heard that the rivet type should be just fine...
 
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nedro said:
Not true. Some chains are manufactured as continous chains - that is they are manufactured in a loop. They are stonger, and generally come stock on most bikes (except for later model sportbikes that come with heavily braced swingarms).

The disadvantage - they're real expesive and you have to remove the swingarm to replace them.

As to sprockets, I'm fond of steel ones. Cheap and durable. As to the extra weight... you can drop more weight with a visit to the bathroom.

Never in my life have I seen a continueous chain on any motorcycle. I'm not calling you a liar, I've just never seen one. Please let me know of any that have one because I would love to see it.
Model, brand, year, anything.
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hes kinda right, they do have "endless chains", and who knows you might be able to get em as OEM parts from the dealer. but i have never heard of or seen someone buy one, they come OEM on lots of bikes. and techinically they arent endless, they must also use a "masterlink" its just pressed and peened like the other links so it looks the same. endless just means they come already connected/looped with with a preset amount of links.

but 99.99999999% of bikes are replaced with chains that use a seperate masterlink that must be pressed and either clipped or riveted. that way chains can be sold to fit a wide range of sprocket sizes and combos.
 
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levitation said:
hes kinda right, they do have "endless chains", and who knows you might be able to get em as OEM parts from the dealer. but i have never heard of or seen someone buy one, they come OEM on lots of bikes. and techinically they arent endless, they must also use a "masterlink" its just pressed and peened like the other links so it looks the same. endless just means they come already connected/looped with with a preset amount of links.

but 99.99999999% of bikes are replaced with chains that use a seperate masterlink that must be pressed and either clipped or riveted. that way chains can be sold to fit a wide range of sprocket sizes and combos.
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Not true. An endless chain has no masterlink, rivetted or otherwise.
I've never seen a endless chain on any motorcycle.
Does anyone have one? Has anyone seen one? If so, what model/brand?
Again, not calling anyone a liar. I'm simply interested in which manufacturer is stupid enough to do it.
 
levitation,

are you sure about that percentage? I thought it was closer to 99.99999998%?

:cool :p ;)

j/k - you nailed it.

Cheers,
Kevin
 
tsubaki....endless chain....

who's more stupid...the company that makes em or the company that uses em on their bikes....
 
ScorpioVI said:
My fuckin DID VM-series X-Ring didn't even last me 10K miles. The stock one lasted 18K. I bought the hype too but the chain spoke for itself. It's not as though it was poorly maintained either, I cleaned/lubed the chain regularly. By the time we took it off at 10K miles the masterlink was kinked and another 3-link section was kinked.

The Sprocket Specialists sprockets (that we put on the same time as the chain) were in pretty bad shape at 10K miles as well. The front had a couple of nasty dips and the rear actually had 3 snapped teeth and the rest were sharking.

Admittedly I didn't check the sprockets as much as I checked the chain so I don't know which started to go bad first. But needless to say I'm not running the DID and Sprocket Specialist combo again.
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FYI, I don't know if this helps... http://www.didchain.com/warnty.html
 
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nedro said:
Not true. An endless chain has no masterlink, rivetted or otherwise.
I've never seen a endless chain on any motorcycle.
Does anyone have one? Has anyone seen one? If so, what model/brand?
Again, not calling anyone a liar. I'm simply interested in which manufacturer is stupid enough to do it.
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i think your definition of a "endless' chain is different from everyone elses?

i just took a "endless" chain off a r6 with a braced swingarm. there was no "masterlink" (masterlink style like aftermarket). the factory manual even tells you will have to cut the chain.

a few places with reference to "endless' chains.
http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/Rchain.html
http://www.didchain.com/question.html
http://www.motorhelmets.com/htm1/bodyparts-chains-did-table.htm
 
I had to drill out one of the links on my SVS chain when I changed it. I may not have seen the master link but I'm sure there wasn't one.

On a bike out of the factory with a set wheelbase, etc. it would make more economic sense to put a standard "endless" chain on during assembly. No clipping (I have real distrust of using a mere clip...) or riveting the sucker in place... just adjustment. I'm sure it's cheaper to get complete units in volume too.

My 2.5 cents..
 
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