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Stock S1000RR does 197 mph

the assumption that a smaller rider creates a better aerodynamic profile is wrong- at least up to a point. A longer, flatter back equals more speed.

sorry, no reference, you can believe it or nuts. :nerd
Tell that to Simoncelli on the Honda. :p

I agree that there is no hard and fast rules for aerodynamics, and those rules evolve with speed as the positions of the boundary layers change with additional forces.

He just seemed to stick up higher than Pedrosa would and at 200 mph the airflow would be compressed down flatter than at lower speeds.
 
Ant,

Next time your at the shop, I'll tell ya some stories of the s1000rr customers ... there is a lot that make me shutter

Preview:

Customer calls us from jail and asks us to tell the police that his bike had a stuck throttle on 280 at night; it is a known problem and that is why he got arrested for going over 160mph. Of course we told him we wouldn't lie and say such a thing.

I would really like to hear these stories as well. If it wouldn't be too much of an imposition, would you consider making a new thread with some of these s1000rr tales? :teeth
 
:thumbup Credit for trying? :rofl


So what do you find to be the trend in S1K buyers - Bimmer for squids, or mid-lifers letting it hang too far out?

I'm just picturing mid-life newbies or decades absent "return" riders jumping on the Bimmer because it's more "respectable" than one of them "crotch rockets" the Japanese build....

Or maybe just older guys who've ridden for decades, have the cash, and will ride it as good or better than any 25 year old on his Yamasaki 999RRZZX-S? Dunno, just a thought.

Cracks me up the stereotypes about old guys binning expensive bikes, when most of the binning going on around these part are young guys on Jap bikes with more money in bling than anything that'd help them ride better.
 
Ant,

Next time your at the shop, I'll tell ya some stories of the s1000rr customers ... there is a lot that make me shutter

Preview:

Customer calls us from jail and asks us to tell the police that his bike had a stuck throttle on 280 at night; it is a known problem and that is why he got arrested for going over 160mph. Of course we told him we wouldn't lie and say such a thing.

I'd love to read these stories, start a thread.
 
So what do you find to be the trend in S1K buyers - Bimmer for squids, or mid-lifers letting it hang too far out?



-Q!

If had to sum it up in the shortest manner possible, I would say mid-life corvette syndrome.

They either can't ride, don't ride, or haven't ridden since the one time when they were 6 on a dirt bike in the back yard. Now they have money, and a 20 year old mistress...so they go buy the most powerful bike possible without realizing it is unlike a car and they need to learn to ride (I have money, and I am a dummy). This is 90% of them. Squid+Rich

The other 10% is actual avid riders who are justified in the purchase of the bike. There is no middle ground
 
If had to sum it up in the shortest manner possible, I would say mid-life corvette syndrome.

They either can't ride, don't ride, or haven't ridden since the one time when they were 6 on a dirt bike in the back yard. Now they have money, and a 20 year old mistress...so they go buy the most powerful bike possible without realizing it is unlike a car and they need to learn to ride (I have money, and I am a dummy). This is 90% of them. Squid+Rich

The other 10% is actual avid riders who are justified in the purchase of the bike. There is no middle ground

How many S1000RR's have you guys sold?
 
Or maybe just older guys who've ridden for decades, have the cash, and will ride it as good or better than any 25 year old on his Yamasaki 999RRZZX-S? Dunno, just a thought.

Cracks me up the stereotypes about old guys binning expensive bikes, when most of the binning going on around these part are young guys on Jap bikes with more money in bling than anything that'd help them ride better.



Just a momentary image I had - but then again, after coaching since 2004, and managing an MSF range for 5 years, I really wouldn't have any idea, simple access to published data, nor the slightest bit of interest into which demographic was most prone to wreck, and on what type of bike...:squid :mstingray (Where's the old guy on crutches smiley?)


It was an anecdotal question, full of stereotype and passing pot-shots. Old much? :twofinger


-Q!
 
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Just a momentary image I had - but then again, after coaching since 2004, and managing an MSF range for 5 years, I really wouldn't have any idea, simple access to published data, nor the slightest bit of interest into which demographic was most prone to wreck, and on what type of bike...:squid :mstingray (Where's the old guy on crutches smiley?)


It was an anecdotal question, full of stereotype and passing pot-shots. Old much? :twofinger


-Q!

Nor would I, having ridden for over 30 years and read all the data as well. If you take a closer look, you'll find that the boomers binning it in mass are largely on cruisers, while the accident statistics for the other hugely over-represented group, are younger riders on sport bikes. Please show me the data that shows 40 somethings binning it on sport bikes more than 20 somethings.

And you see an inordinate number of 40+ year old newbies on the latest big bore liter bikes at MSF courses? Funny, I watch the one at the local high school all the time and I've yet to see anyone on one.

The smoothest, safest street riders I've known have almost always been older riders. But stereotypes are always fun.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, the Hayabusa also had aero-fairings and 30% more displacement, 40% now.
 
Everything affects top speed, weight, power and aerodynamics. A 5,000lb car with 150hp won't have the same top speed as a 2,000lb car with 150hp :p

However in this case, Pedrosa's small stature can hide itself better from the wind which should equal more top end.

Actually it would get close on level ground - it would just take longer to get there. The only thing that would make it peak at a slower speed would be extra tire resistance. If you blew the tires up more, it might get the same speed.
 
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