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SV Carbon Tank project for Zoran

If this isn't BoB material, I don't know what is...

Great, great write-up, man.:thumbup
 
I realize I may be resurrecting this thread from near death, but I was needing information on how to make carbon fiber parts when I came on to this search result. Freakin` amazing! I logged on and preceeded to read all 30 pages of the forum.

End result being,.........I`ve ordered carbon fiber, kevlar, epoxy, etc and am going to try and make my own for a recently purchased Aprilia Tuono.

I realize of course, my girlfriend may not see much of me this summer as I`ll be in the garage! Damn, spare time, what`s that?

Ray
 
From the dead, indeed.
On the other hand, I've had this thread bookmarked on my computer for years, and I just started actually posting on BARF two months ago.
It really *IS* the best resource out there for what us moto folks are looking to do!!!
 
hi dont suppose anyone has used diolen? wondering if its any good really? joined the forum to say thanks to the O.P. for the how to, i was looking for someone to do some fairings for me as i was a bit scared of the black art that is carbon work, having read this i'm a bit more confident that i could do this myself, so i'm looking to make the fairings and a fuel tank, whilst i'm here another question, i know that fuel affects certain resins but does it also affect certain materials, so would a poly based material be affected by the fuel?
 
rhubarbray said:
I realize I may be resurrecting this thread from near death, but I was needing information on how to make carbon fiber parts when I came on to this search result. Freakin` amazing! I logged on and preceeded to read all 30 pages of the forum.

End result being,.........I`ve ordered carbon fiber, kevlar, epoxy, etc and am going to try and make my own for a recently purchased Aprilia Tuono.

I realize of course, my girlfriend may not see much of me this summer as I`ll be in the garage! Damn, spare time, what`s that?

Ray
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Crash Gordon said:
From the dead, indeed.
On the other hand, I've had this thread bookmarked on my computer for years, and I just started actually posting on BARF two months ago.
It really *IS* the best resource out there for what us moto folks are looking to do!!!
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this thread has been referenced all over the web, all the hell over!

it's why the intarweb was invented: to facilitate sharing information (and porn)
 
kaighn80 said:
hi dont suppose anyone has used diolen? wondering if its any good really? joined the forum to say thanks to the O.P. for the how to, i was looking for someone to do some fairings for me as i was a bit scared of the black art that is carbon work, having read this i'm a bit more confident that i could do this myself, so i'm looking to make the fairings and a fuel tank, whilst i'm here another question, i know that fuel affects certain resins but does it also affect certain materials, so would a poly based material be affected by the fuel?
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Hi! As for fuel tanks, careful!! I`m still interested in making the tank for my Tuono but in 6 months of looking and talking to resin manufacturers and importers, and looking at all the specs for epoxy, polyester, vinyl ester, novolac, epoxy vinyl ester, isophthalic, terephthalic, and every other kind of phthalic you can think of,........I only came up with 2! Both of them polyester resins. Made by AOC and Reichold but are the only ones I can find that comply with UL1316 specs. That`s the spec used for coating underground fuel tanks. And they`re the only ones I can fine that will resist ethanol fuels. Or in the US known as E10, E15, etc. I know that I`d rather have a stronger resin than a poly for the project but the chemical formulators and researchers have come a long way in the last while. The other major issue I have with the poly and vinyl ester resins is the shrink rate. Some are as little as 4%, while some are as much as 10%! Epoxy doesn`t shrink nearly at all and you must wear a respirator while using poly and vinyl. I`m thinking of using epoxy for the molds and plugs and then switching to poly for the final layup. Should minimize the shrinkage.

Ray
 
Ray, you can make a CF fuel tank with epoxy resins - just coat the inner surface with tank sealant (POR-15, etc) to prevent the fuel from contacting the resin.
 
Kevlar ??

This is one informative thread! :thumbup

What is the need of a single layer of aramid as the final layer over the tank?

I believe CF is much stiffer than aramid and if you are using aramid to give the top layer a little flexibility, dont you think the carbon fibre below will make the aramid layer redundant?

Thanks,
Viniket
 
can't speak for tygaboy and don't want to reread... but CF has horrible impact and abrasion resistance. aramid is good at both of those, well better than CF anyway.

a single layer might not do much functionally, but it's better than nothing
 
auntiebling said:
can't speak for tygaboy and don't want to reread... but CF has horrible impact and abrasion resistance. aramid is good at both of those, well better than CF anyway.

a single layer might not do much functionally, but it's better than nothing
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I don't think we need any abrasion resistive properties for this project
But yeah I read a bit on aramid and it seems CF is stiffer than it but it tends to crack easily whereas aramid bends a bit rather than cracking

So my question now is, how many layers of aramid will actually make a difference?
 
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