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The Cloward-Piven Strategy

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I totally agree with using the past to learn from past mistakes, but most of what I have read so far in this thread revolves around who did this, and who did that. All I'm saying is, everyone who was accused is to blame, they all fucked up, and in turn, screwed us in the process, and we need to fix that. I was reading the Goldman Sachs thread, and saw how they made alot of money, OUR money, for their own selves, all of it done pretty much legally. It's things like that, that we need to fix. It's time Americans fixed this country and make it all right again, this corrupt bs needs to be weeded out and fixed.

Who could disagree with that ^. The million dollar question is how. Knowing what went wrong is the first step and know what our politicians motives is the second step. If step 3, voting new politicians into office does not work, we move to step 4... armed revolution. :thumbup
 
Who could disagree with that ^. The million dollar question is how. Knowing what went wrong is the first step and know what our politicians motives is the second step. If step 3, voting new politicians into office does not work, we move to step 4... armed revolution. :thumbup

Step 1 - What went wrong was basically, people got greedy, took advantage of the system, reaped it for all it was worth, forced it to grow back, took advantage of it again, and kept on repeating the cycle.

Step 2 - For most politicians, Step one applies to them, the few honest ones, either get screwed, or are too afraid to do anything.

Step 3 - How many times has that worked, it obviously isn't working now, we went from one bad president to the next, same with other politicians, we went from Davis to Schwarzenegger because Davis screwed up, but so far, things see, to be even worst than before

Step 4 - How are we going to manage to muster up this country for a revolution, if that's to work, we need the help of other countries, this isn't just happening here, it's all over the world, this fiasco effected everyone, not just us, look at what happened to Iceland (I think it was Iceland), the whole country nearly ran out of money. Things need to change everywhere, and it should start here, if America can start fixing the problems, I think every other country would follow suit.

All of this is just what I'm thinking about, I do not know the whole truth behind it, nor everything that will happen, I'm just some random 19 year old who thinks too much lol, and is sick of watching all the bad stuff that's been happening as of late
 
You're very mature and wise for only being 19. I never would have guessed you were only 19 from reading your posts. Maybe there is hope for your generation after all. :thumbup
 
You're very mature and wise for only being 19. I never would have guessed you were only 19 from reading your posts. Maybe there is hope for your generation after all. :thumbup

I'm not the only one of my kind lol, there are plenty of people of my generation who aren't halfwit retards, there's only a small percentage who seem to lack any intelligence, or a future for that matter, sadly they seem to be the ones most people pay attention to
 
I think that the first step of fixing the economy should be executing all lobbyists.
 
You guys are being dillusional.

And nobody even noticed my haiku, bastids.
 
If he wasn't the darling of the Right, then please explain to me why I was attacked so vehemently by plenty of people on the Right every time that I said something bad about him and/or his administration?

No, that's just because you have this annoying, delusional tendency to pigeon-hole anyone who disagrees with you as being "on the Right." And then you usually make bizarre claims that whoever it is must be taking marching and talking point orders from whatever you imagine is "the Right's" central-command talking-point distribution center.



Anyway, back to the "there is no right/left" issue, I'm going to bring up the Council on Foreign Relations. If you haven't heard of that group, you need to research it. They are the ones leading the country, regardless of who's actually in the White House. This is where the real central-command talking-point distribution center is!!!

Don't take my word for it, take Hillary Clinton's. On the 15th, she addressed the CFR at their new office in DC, saying:

Thank you very much, Richard, and I am delighted to be here in these new headquarters. I have been often to, I guess, the mother ship in New York City, but it’s good to have an outpost of the Council right here down the street from the State Department. We get a lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I won’t have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future.

If you read that other thread on Goldman Sachs, the tip of the CFR's corporate membership roster may be interesting:

Corporate Membership

(as of July 20, 2009)
Founders

Bank of America / Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc.
Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.

Hess Corporation
McKinsey & Company, Inc.
The Nasdaq OMX Group

Their membership rosters are public, and you can google up lists where people have cross-checked the roster to find out what the person's job is. It is just plain jaw-dropping finding out how many members are in top government, financial, educational, legal, corporate, and media positions.

Every presidential administration since Woodrow has been packed with CFR members from top to bottom. The CFR picks the candidates, the CFR-media members hype the candidates they want and ignore the ones they don't (example: Ron Paul vs John McCain -- I don't know any Republicans who actually liked McCain or even wanted to vote for him, but Ron Paul got ignored off of the mainstream media) and ask soft-ball questions that shape the debate. And when that candidate is elected, the CFR tells him whom to appoint to all the various cabinet positions. No matter which "party" is in power, the leadership and agenda is the same.

This is barely a lightweight-class conspiracy theory, and only because the CFR publicly claims that it is just a non-partisan think-tank. It is indeed non-partisan -- they don't prefer Republicans vs Democrats -- but as Hillary says, they tell their members how to think and what agendas to support.

Two books on the CFR:

The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline

Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's favorite and most influential (Bill's words) teacher)
 
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