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The Median Rent for an SF Two-Bedroom Hits $5,000/Month

Archimedes said:
That's all it is. Envy, plain and simple. Made up nonsense to justify hating on people because they're more successful than them. That and the angst caused by the fact that the city is changing, and most people simply don't like change, particularly if it doesn't fit their view of what change should look like.
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Especially this.
 
Agent Orange said:
Are you living on Mars?

Literally the whole City is being affected by all these shiny new buildings. Fuck the crackheads.
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No, actually I've been up in the city a bunch in the last 3 months and it still looks plenty diverse to me.

And there's still enough human excrement lying around to gag a horse. Seems like the same old Shitty of San Francisco to me.
 
HappyHighwayman said:
Especially this.
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What cracks me up the most is people who don't see the irony in complaining about how a bunch of white people moving into a neighborhood is bad, but think it's incredibly racist if a white person complains about a bunch of minorities moving into a neighborhood. :laughing
 
The race of the techies has absolutely nothing to do with it, though. That's a different issue.
 
Archimedes said:
It is really sad how these tech companies are absolutely destroying these great neighborhoods by creating jobs, building new buildings, driving the growth of other businesses and paying massive taxes to the city, all at the expense of these crack addicts shitting their pants in the crosswalk. Somebody really needs to put a stop to this. Keep San Francisco Shitty!
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Except SF creates giant tax deals to lure in the businesses. They still pay a lot, but they are getting a sweetheart deal. Those are the ones that pay. There are also shitty ones that fight it, then have the gall to publicly bitch about it when they have to with snarky ad campaigns. Like having to pay taxes to the city that incubated and adopted your ultrasuccessful startup is a crime against humanity.
 
HappyHighwayman said:
But it's inevitable.

It's good for the people coming in isn't it?

Planning on dying in your rent controlled home is a poor retirement plan.
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not necessarily inevitable but it seems to be

depends on which group coming in you ask - that minority farm worker probably doesn't think so. My grandparents who immigrated here with nothing, probably wouldn't think so.

How so? It's rent controlled so if you plan appropriately it's a fixed cost that should be fully planned for in advance.
 
Yakoo752 said:
not necessarily inevitable but it seems to be

depends on which group coming in you ask - that minority farm worker probably doesn't think so. My grandparents who immigrated here with nothing, probably wouldn't think so.

How so? It's rent controlled so if you plan appropriately it's a fixed cost that should be fully planned for in advance.
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Because a lot of people in the past few years have been evicted from apartments they've lived in for 20-30 years. They planned on staying there till they died, and potentially even leaving it for a relative to take over if possible.

A lady in NYC lived in her apartment 40-50 years and also had massive debt and they wanted her to agree to give up the apartment after she died in exchange for relief and she went to court over it because she wanted to transfer it to her son. That's an extreme case though.
 
but we're not talking about NYC

we're talking about tenant rights in SF, specifically rent controlled tenant rights in SF :laughing quite possibly the most protected class in the United States
 
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Yakoo752 said:
but we're not talking about NYC

we're talking about tenant rights in SF :laughing
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I know, I just thought it was interesting, but I can easily find you a local example. One dude feels like he is owed something because of the minor improvements he's made over the past 30 years. He's preventing the family from kicking him out, and he's going to court...he has no legal options other than delay delay delay.
 
HappyHighwayman said:
Because a lot of people in the past few years have been evicted from apartments they've lived in for 20-30 years. They planned on staying there till they died, and potentially even leaving it for a relative to take over if possible.

A lady in NYC lived in her apartment 40-50 years and also had massive debt and they wanted her to agree to give up the apartment after she died in exchange for relief and she went to court over it because she wanted to transfer it to her son. That's an extreme case though.
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Yea, my mother got kicked out of her Apt in Albany, CA this year after having rented the same place for literally 20 years.

Owner sold it because $ and new investor kicked everyone out " for renovation"

She should have bought 5 years ago, but even then her rent controlled place was a better deal than what she would have spent on a place in Albany so she didn't. Probably not the only story like this
 
JesasaurusRex said:
Yea, my mother got kicked out of her Apt in Albany, CA this year after having rented the same place for literally 20 years.

Owner sold it because $ and new investor kicked everyone out " for renovation"

She should have bought 5 years ago, but even then her rent controlled place was a better deal than what she would have spent on a place in Albany so she didn't. Probably not the only story like this
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And that sucks! But unless renting somehow means ownership, I don't see a solution (other than CA should build a lot more).
 
Yup, she lucked out and took over a lease from a family friends kid who was moving back in with his parents. Pays less amazingly than before but for a place half the size. Regardless, she's bummed, after 20 years even as a renter you feel like a place is your home.

I'm with you though, SF bay area needs to start building UP.
 
JesasaurusRex said:
Yea, my mother got kicked out of her Apt in Albany, CA this year after having rented the same place for literally 20 years.

Owner sold it because $ and new investor kicked everyone out " for renovation"

She should have bought 5 years ago, but even then her rent controlled place was a better deal than what she would have spent on a place in Albany so she didn't. Probably not the only story like this
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yes, but a smart person would be putting the difference in market rate aside for a potential eviction.
 
JesasaurusRex said:
Yup, she lucked out and took over a lease from a family friends kid who was moving back in with his parents. Pays less amazingly than before but for a place half the size. Regardless, she's bummed, after 20 years even as a renter you feel like a place is your home.

I'm with you though, SF bay area needs to start building UP.
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Yeah she is lucky and I am glad it worked out for her.

There is so much space everywhere I look in the Bay. They have sufficient room for entire new cities!
 
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