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Trouble at McDonald's: Hot Bike Exhaust

I had a aftermarket pipe (the stock one rusted out and I didn't grok rat bike then) on a GS400 back in the early 80s... that thing was always hot; branded a couple of girl friends w/ the pipe getting off the bike. Some insulation is nice to have; I have a 19' steam launch that I built and every time I burn myself on something hot on it, I wrap that spot (usually a steam line) w/ rope so it doesn't happen again.
 
Heat shields only cover areas to protect the bike and rider, not the general public. There are lots of open areas (sometimes the whole damn pipe) that can get touched.

I know that... But you can see what I am getting at... That could be a question ... And enough for a payout..

Remeber... our legal system is wacked...
 
What an entertaining story... as expected
 
People would do the same thing and try to sit their kids on my old green ninja zx10r.:wtf And they'd give me a dirty look when I told them no. It was my bike not a fucking carnival carousel where you can take pics and post it on myspace.... Assholes:mad

Wow dude... When you were a kid, you never wished to sit on an mc, or go inside a fire truck? As an adult, when you board the plane, do you ever glance inside the cabin and want to just sit in the pilot's seat and enjoy the view of the inside of the cockpit.

I do not like when people sit on my bike without asking, but if a parent is asking to sit the kid on the bike, why not? What is the big deal?
 
well hopefully he learned a very important lesson! dont touch other peoples motorcycles. And if he didnt sustain any serious burns so much the better.
I worry about kids climbing on my bike and having the bike fall on them.
 
Wow dude... When you were a kid, you never wished to sit on an mc, or go inside a fire truck? As an adult, when you board the plane, do you ever glance inside the cabin and want to just sit in the pilot's seat and enjoy the view of the inside of the cockpit.

I do not like when people sit on my bike without asking, but if a parent is asking to sit the kid on the bike, why not? What is the big deal?

the kids aren't even that excited, its their stupid parents that think it will be a great idea to take a picture of their kids on someone elses bike. The kids don't even ask their parents or even mention it. All the parents idea.

And when I was a kid I did like staring at the bikes, but I never got the idea of wanting to sit on it myself, because I was taught not to touch other people's property. These guys look like a bunch of tourists trying to take a bunch of pics
 
Kids are dumb. I remember pulling up to a camp where I worked a long time ago. The kids all crowded around. "Stay away from the bike. Don't touch the pipes, they're very hot." I said. I take off my glasses and helmet and by the time I get the glasses back on, one of the kids had jumped on the bike and was twisting the throttle and making noises. This lasted about two seconds before he touched his bare leg to the header pipe and burned himself badly. The worst part for me was getting the charred skin off the pipe. This kid was about 12 or 13 at the time. I wonder if he ever made it to adulthood?


Edit: I hope the OP got the hell out of there before anyone thought to get his info. Not your fault but you never know.
 
My stepbrat learned the hard way what hot exhaust feels like. I had his hand print semi-permanently burned into my black exhaust can on one of my old bikes. He's never come even close to doing that again.

Or, an observation from Mark Twain:

“The cat, having sat upon a hot stove lid, will not sit upon a hot stove lid again. But he won't sit upon a cold stove lid, either.”
 
I would not have done anything. Kid did it to himself, and probably taught himself a lesson.
Probably a lot more cautious around bikes too.
Oh, and I have a carbon exhaust, so it's never hot.

maybe not the can but the MIDPIPE is.:twofinger
 
I wouldn't have even got up from the table, unless the kid left a piece of burnt skin that stained the exhaust pipe.... :laughing
 
I know the first 15 seconds you were gasping for air, but.
:thumbup forthe McD's manager for being aware of your stuff and securing it for you.
 
A similar thing happened when I had my 2002 R1. There I was in the City, having lunch one day, bike parked at the curb. Here comes a kid putting his hands on everything in his path; his mother was following, chatting on her cell phone and generally not paying attention like she should. I watched closely...sure enough he stops and makes a beeline for my bike. F**k. But what's the first thing he slaps his hand on?

That's right, the exhaust can. Smooth.

Kid runs off howling with mom chasing him.

:laughing

heh..couple similar ones, both with my bug:

first, a visual: (click for full size)

neighbor lady yelling at me because her kid burned his leg on the megaphone trying to climb up on the bumper "to look at the stickers".:rolleyes

second, another visual, bad picture of the antenna ball i used to have, "hellraiser jack"; those are all straight pins, points out.
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in a parking lot somewhere, woman is standing next to the car holding her toddler on her hip, looking at the antenna ball. kid is curious, and reaches out to grab it right as i'm walking up to the car. she yanks him away, then starts yelling at me about how it's unsafe (because I was the one holding him up within reach of it) :rolleyes.

both responses were about the same: keep your kid off of my car.
 
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While common sense would dictate that one would not be liable for the injuries of another when they are incurred by accessing or interacting with one' prooperty without permission, the law doesn't always follow common sense.

There is a concept known as Attractive Nuisance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractive_nuisance_doctrine

Fortunately, only applied to landowners so not directly applicable to a motorcycle in a public parking lot. Unfortunately I could see an aggressive civil attorney trying to leverage it into a situation like this.
 
heh..couple similar ones, both with my bug:


second, another visual, bad picture of the antenna ball i used to have, "hellraiser jack"; those are all straight pins, points out.
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Is this some VW thing? My friends in I growing up in Socal had our own various Jack's. Mine was Punk Rock Jack. He had a row of nails out the top painted alternate blue and orange with a pissed off expression :teeth
 
We've all heard the story of the burglar who fell through the sky light while trying to break into the building...Then sued the buisness owner over his injuries. People sue for ANYTHING.

The twisted rationale on that one (IIRC) was that the skylight was SUPPOSED to be able to support the weight of a person and it failed to do so.

Somehow the fact that the guy was ON it in the middle of the night with no legitimate reason was not regarded as a factor. :wtf
 
Is this some VW thing? My friends in I growing up in Socal had our own various Jack's. Mine was Punk Rock Jack. He had a row of nails out the top painted alternate blue and orange with a pissed off expression :teeth

not that i know of, it was more a way to keep it from getting stolen like the last one i'd had. :cool
 
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