Way To Go Libs (Some turn violent in GOP convention protests)

[Arminius]

Not at all surprising huh?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080902/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_protests

 

[Shotline]

You know, some people on here like to say that conservatives are more hateful than liberals. However, I don't remember any violent protests at the DNC.

 

[serazin]

Chicago 1968


But you have to remember, it all follows the socialist flowchart...(see lower right corner)

 

[planegray]

I guess reading comprehension is lacking for a few of us tonight;

"Late Monday afternoon, long after the antiwar marchers had dispersed, police requested and got 150 Minnesota National Guard soldiers to help control splinter groups near downtown."

Unless you folks (blu/ shot/ serazin) now consider Anarchists to be liberal......?

 

[n10sive]

I think there are a few liberal barfer's ready to throw bleach on people today too!

 

[jdhu]

I guess reading comprehension is lacking for a few of us tonight;

"Late Monday afternoon, long after the antiwar marchers had dispersed, police requested and got 150 Minnesota National Guard soldiers to help control splinter groups near downtown."

Unless you folks (blu/ shot/ serazin) now consider Anarchists to be liberal......?

Haha, funny, you complaining about reading comprehension...

I'm not sure where you would classify anarchists. I would place them FAR to the left, past communists.

Then again, anarchists have (in theory) some similarities with libertarians, who are FAR to the right. So perhaps the political spectrum is not linear, but circular.

 

[Shotline]

I guess reading comprehension is lacking for a few of us tonight;

"Late Monday afternoon, long after the antiwar marchers had dispersed, police requested and got 150 Minnesota National Guard soldiers to help control splinter groups near downtown."

Unless you folks (blu/ shot/ serazin) now consider Anarchists to be liberal......?

Hmm, well my dictionary does not say "Splinter groups....see anarchists". In other words, where does it say that the splinter groups were not liberals?

 

[planegray]

Haha, funny, you complaining about reading comprehension...................

so, in this particular case, was I correct ?

Yes ___________
No ___________

Hmm, well my dictionary does not say "Splinter groups....see anarchists". In other words, where does it say that the splinter groups were not liberals?

I'm guessing ( and that's all it is) that the Anti-War protesters would be the "Liberals" in this news story, but they had left by the time things got ugly.

I guess that maybe splinters are all painful, and by definition they could be considered "liberal"

 

[jdhu]

so, in this particular case, was I correct ?

Yes ___________
No ___________

Give you an "inconclusive" here. I would agree that the violent protesters are certainly not mainstream Democrats, but fringe elements who probably protest just to do so and have no idea what they are protesting against.

That said, anarchists (generally) identify more with "liberals," ie radical ex-hippies, etc.

 

[Ratters]

Most of these so called "anarchists" aren't really anarchists at all in the truest sense of not having government or leaders. They are mostly just punk asses who riot not because they think there shouldn't be a government, but because the government isn't doing exactly what they want it to do. Most of them are considered leftists because they believe in socialism or communism and don't believe in property rights.

Me, I'm an anarcho capatalist, or market anarchist.

 

[Mike95060]

Damn, who would have thought a bunch of arugula eating pussies would turn violent??

Oh wait a minute it wasn't the liberal pussies after all...

The trouble happened not far from the Xcel Energy Center convention site where the GOP was starting its four-day meeting. And many of those involved in the more violent activities identified themselves to reporters as anarchists. These protesters, some clad in black, were operating on the streets in addition to a peaceful anti-war march, wreaking havoc by damaging property and setting at least one fire. Most of the trouble was in pocket of a neighborhood near downtown, several blocks from where the convention was taking place.

Way to spin it OP

for those of you who might want to educate yourselves about what anarchist groups, yes i think that is an oxymoron, believe, here is a link.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5065/definitions.html

and some FAQs

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/anarfaq.htm#part1

its quite a bit different than the Democratic Party platform dont ya think? arty

 

[planegray]

Most of these so called "anarchists" aren't really anarchists at all in the truest sense of not having government or leaders. They are mostly just punk asses who riot not because they think there shouldn't be a government, but because the government isn't doing exactly what they want it to do. Most of them are considered leftists because they believe in socialism or communism and don't believe in property rights.

Me, I'm an anarcho capatalist, or market anarchist.

That's a mighty big assumption !

I'm thinking that they were angry venture capitalists upset that McCain isn't conservative enough !

 

[n10sive]

for those of you who might want to educate yourselves about what anarchist groups, yes i think that is an oxymoron, believe, here is a link.

Without doing all the reading, why do you suppose they did not do the same thing at the DNC? Do anarchists align, or are they associated with the democrats like the religious right are associated with the republicans? Curious.

 

[Holeshot]

I don't believe anarchists to be "liberal". That being said, it sounds as if they're on the left side, and not "anarchists" perse. I think they may have used that word to not have to define who they were, exactly...

But that's a hunch.

 

[Shotline]

Damn, who would have thought a bunch of arugula eating pussies would turn violent??

Oh wait a minute it wasn't the liberal pussies after all...



Way to spin it OP

for those of you who might want to educate yourselves about what anarchist groups, yes i think that is an oxymoron, believe, here is a link.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5065/definitions.html

and some FAQs

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/anarfaq.htm#part1

its quite a bit different than the Democratic Party platform dont ya think? arty

Interesting that they weren't at the Democratic National Convention. Does that indicate anything?

 

[Mike95060]

Without doing all the reading, why do you suppose they did not do the same thing at the DNC? Do anarchists align, or are they associated with the democrats like the religious right are associated with the republicans? Curious.

Well i, personally believe they are punk kids rebelling at what they think the "establishment" is. For the past 8 years that has been the Bush administration and the Republicans. On the other hand they really could be a bright group of folks that have reached a breaking point with current policy. I'm leaning towards my fist description.

This isn't new behavior by the way. Similar riots took place when the WTO held its meeting in Seattle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTO_Ministerial_Conference_of_1999_protest_activity

Edit: Anarchism is left leaning, im not denying that. What is absurd however is to paint the Democratic party or 99.9% of liberal Americans with the same brush as violent groups like the black bloc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc

Edit again, i'm no expert on anarchist groups. as can be seen by misunderstanding of what the black bloc was or is, apparently is isn't a group but a tactic. I do however think my point is still valid, those who would participate in black bloc activities definitely wouldn't vote republican, and they more than likely wont vote Democratic either. They don't seem to believe in voting for any type of power structure.

http://mlcastle.net/raisethefist/bloc.html

 

[planegray]

Ok, by now I think it's pretty obvious that the "anarchists" were just a bunch of young republicans trying to make the democrats look bad. Damn their trust fund resources !

Interesting that they weren't at the Democratic National Convention. Does that indicate anything?

Yes, it makes is painfully apparent that the Democrats believe in Law and Order, and the Republicans don't

duh

 

[n10sive]

Well i, personally believe they are punk kids rebelling at what they think the "establishment" is.

I would think that is probably more "it" too.

I guess history also suggests that 'whoever' the establishment is at the time gets the brunt of the unhappiness. As for the WTO, I guess the republicans get the credit for that one too.

It's funny how the Republicans want LESS government, and yet they are seen as the 'establishment'

 

[Arminius]

They walk like a duck and they quack like a duck.

You are kidding yourselves if you think that crowd wasn't made up of leftists, which as we all know are closely aligned with liberals. We have more than a few of them on this board that have called for revolution and called for big businesses to be nationalized.

PG,
The media is not going to call it like it is. They choose their words very carefully, but maybe you still have not figured that out yet. Just watch the news some night where they describe a suspect as "a male in their early 20s with short cropped hair".

 

[wazzuFreddo]

A little bit ironic since Rush and Savage were calling for violence in Denver for the DNC.