Whats the word on a Yamaha FZ6R

[Psyclotron]

My thoughts I thought are pretty straight forward.
If a new rider wants to buy a Ninja 650, great. Hope he buys gear and has fun.

If his next bike is a ZX14 or Hayabusa, great. I hope he has fun with it.

Perhaps he'll do a track day or two to hone his skills. Maybe he'll just ride it on the freeway 1000 miles a year. I don't really care.

I understand it's the BARF way to tell newbies they should start on used bikes, small bikes, bikes with < 30 HP. And that's good advice.
But if someone wants to start on a 50, 80, or 100hp bike, great. I don't really give a shit, and it irritates me that someone else should deride their bike buying decision.

Clearly not

 

[Z3n]

My thoughts I thought are pretty straight forward.
If a new rider wants to buy a Ninja 650, great. Hope he buys gear and has fun.

If his next bike is a ZX14 or Hayabusa, great. I hope he has fun with it.

Perhaps he'll do a track day or two to hone his skills. Maybe he'll just ride it on the freeway 1000 miles a year. I don't really care.

I understand it's the BARF way to tell newbies they should start on used bikes, small bikes, bikes with < 30 HP. And that's good advice.
But if someone wants to start on a 50, 80, or 100hp bike, great. I don't really give a shit, and it irritates me that someone else should deride their bike buying decision.

Who's deriding anyone's bike buying decision? You're seriously seeing things that aren't there. I've said over and over the reasons that I think that it's better for people to start on smaller bikes, and nowhere in the thread have I derided anyone decisions for buying whatever bike they chose to buy.

It's great that you don't give a shit about any of the riders out there, but considering that I've been there to pick them up off the side of the road when they've wadded their brand new bike with under 500 miles on it that they were in way over their head with, I do care what people buy and will go through efforts to make sure that they make a decision that doesn't end with me calling 911 on their behalf and then breaking their ribs with CPR.

I've seen too many new bikes tossed of the side of the road, too many phone calls to partners or parents, too many friends bleeding on the side of the road to just blow it off. Not to mention the grief I've gotten from residents, police, paramedics, and citizens as a result of other people's accidents...

 

[CuriousMike]

You're assuming size of bike = likelyhood of wadding it.
I don't.

 

[CuriousMike]

Clearly not

Seriously dude?

 

[CuriousMike]

Wait... you're a chick right?

 

[Z3n]

You're assuming size of bike = likelyhood of wadding it.
I don't.

You still don't understand: It's not the size of the bike, it's how it makes power, the seating position, the steering geometry, the suspension setup, etc. etc. etc. Go back and read the posts and then come and comment.

I'm not a MSF instructor or anything, but I've taken a few riders from never been on a bike to B group trackday riders and it's pretty easy to see the difference in comfort and confidence between those who started on bikes appropriate to their skill levels, and those who started on a bigger bike than they should have. (Which, to repeat, varies from person to person, depending on their experience and history)

You've been around awhile, do you remember Caliguy2004? I was one of the ones out there actually talking to him, trying to get help him avoid wadding his shit. When it did happen, it thankfully happened at the track, but he's not riding as a result of that now...I like seeing new riders, and I don't like watching them crash and then quit riding. This happens a lot more to the people on supersports than it does the people on 250s...