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When a Jedi crashes - Unlearning bad habits, when correct & bad techniques conflict
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RhythmRider
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Mark, I think I must be reading your post wrong, but it looks like you said a rider can't learn from crashing. 
canyonrat
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Mark, I think I must be reading your post wrong, but it looks like you said a rider can't learn from crashing.
Actually I have not learned a thing from these two crashes. I have learned that when one really revamps their riding style there is an increased chance of crashing. Also I learned about how emotional ties can be bound in an object, like a motorcycle.
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I found that a most interesting read.. nicely done. I love to read stuff that is passion/experience based about the individual by the individual.
Heal quick..!
Heal quick..!
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Seriously? So you don't know why you crashed? Or you do know why you crashed, and you already knew whatever that was and did it anyways? Huh.
DJNick
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ThinkFast you know you are replying to a thread over 10 years old? I'm not even sure if Mark still posts here.
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I do, and he does. The topic of this thread is as relevant as it was the day it was posted, imho.
Johndicezx9
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Timing is everything....
ejv
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To add to the 11 year old thread ...
From the pic of dragging a knee on skeggs to the "how do I go faster" mindset, I was thinking "why is this guy riding the street like this" ... get to the track.
I couldn't make it much further.
From the pic of dragging a knee on skeggs to the "how do I go faster" mindset, I was thinking "why is this guy riding the street like this" ... get to the track.
I couldn't make it much further.
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Oh, the mindset that you gotta crash and break bones and bleed and all that to get better is kind of ridiculous.
The flip side, of if you plan to win races then on that path you will have some crashes is correct.
The flip side, of if you plan to win races then on that path you will have some crashes is correct.
cryptomail
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Ghost bumps are the best!
canyonrat
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To add to the 11 year old thread ...
From the pic of dragging a knee on skeggs to the "how do I go faster" mindset, I was thinking "why is this guy riding the street like this" ... get to the track.
I couldn't make it much further.
Tracks are actually really boring to me. First off it is the same 3+/- miles with about 15 to 20 corners, over and over again. You get to spend all day riding about 100 miles. When I go riding and go riding with others we get about 150 to 300 miles of riding. We stop at the pub at the end and everyone goes home. Every single track day I have attended has had multiple ambulance rides out of there and all but one has had an air ambulance out of there. And all these other riders near me in corners at 100mph scare me, I do not know who they are! Also, on my old 750, they would pass me on the straits and park their sh!t in the corners. I can't find the photo of me waving back three slow riders in a corner while we were all dragging knee. LOL
So I am now 54, been riding from about 1996, have developed two techniques to ride fast and lead groups on roads we have never been on before, and which involves being able to avoid unseen dangers. (Inside joke here, me holding back the entire group for 5 minutes on the most SPECTACULAR straits, for an oncoming black Crown Victorian, but I had it wrong, it was a black Fvcking Ford Probe. LOL!!! Then the entire group of 1000s left me in the dust with my 750. It took 15 minutes to catch up to them. LOL) So the second technique still needs some fine tuning...LOL.
So fast street riding can be done successfully on specific roads, on specific days, at specific times, knowing where driveways are and slowing, and knowing where the animal trails are and the easiest routes to water are. It takes some time to develop this knowledge. It is in my opinion much more difficult then track riding.
Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
Kinda full circle at this point....