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When do you stop making the effort?

I love the friends who stopped contacting but then say that its your fault

or

you dont hear from them in half a year despite living 5 minutes away yet they call and want help moving. :wtf
 
I love the friends who stopped contacting but then say that its your fault

or

you dont hear from them in half a year despite living 5 minutes away yet they call and want help moving. :wtf

Not even to first base dubs! :twofinger

Wont date ya, but you can move their couch.
 
I love the friends who stopped contacting but then say that its your fault

or

you dont hear from them in half a year despite living 5 minutes away yet they call and want help moving. :wtf

This is kind of more along the lines as what I have been talking about.


I guess, since most of my dear friends live far away, flying solo and being the one that tries to hang out with the acquaintances has taken its toll on me. I guess, from the opinions that have been expressed, I will try to stop hanging out with them and see if I can find people that do want to hang out.

A lot of what has been expressed here, has been what has been plaguing me, but with similar or shared opinions, I have realized that I will focus on the people that want me around, forget the ones that don't, and look to find others that do as well.

Again, Thank you, all, for your input and being very helpful. I do very much appreciate it....
 
This is kind of more along the lines as what I have been talking about.


I guess, since most of my dear friends live far away, flying solo and being the one that tries to hang out with the acquaintances has taken its toll on me. I guess, from the opinions that have been expressed, I will try to stop hanging out with them and see if I can find people that do want to hang out.

A lot of what has been expressed here, has been what has been plaguing me, but with similar or shared opinions, I have realized that I will focus on the people that want me around, forget the ones that don't, and look to find others that do as well.

Again, Thank you, all, for your input and being very helpful. I do very much appreciate it....

There is also the variety of friendship that lasts the test of time. As I age I find I have fewer friendships but the quality of those relationships makes up for the lesser quantity in numbers.

Life.
 
I'm not trying in any way to be mean here, but if you don't have friends, real friends, you're either boring, have some very bad or annoying traits, or you lack social skills. It's also possible that you're simply not putting yourself out there, how are you going to find friends by sitting at home and playing video games?

This is my viewpoint on the subject, rather than an attack on you as an individual. You're asking about when to let go, but the real problem is you can't find someone who wants to be around you, correct?

You need to know who you want to be around, that's the first thing, what type of person, what qualities do they posses, what are their interests? Then you need to imagine what type of person you would need to be to interest them. The people you're cutting yourself off from aren't necessarily the problem, it's entirely possible, I'd say likely if it's more than a couple people that treat you the same way, that you are. It seems like you're trying to use them to fill a void in yourself, just as they are trying to use you to fill a need they have.

People always use each other, if you just wanted company, you could donate time to an old folks home and sacrifice your time to listen to somebody drone on and on about their past exploits, but that's not what you've done, you want someone interesting and fun to use for your enjoyment, correct?

But perhaps I'm misinterpreting things.
 
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I have just a few friends, but lots of 'partners in crime' aka people that like to do the same things that I do. That really became apparent after meeting lots and lots of people on barf whom I find its best to just ride with, but not otherwise hang out with.. enjoying a mutually loved activity, but being comfortable with various degrees of a fairly shallow bond, and not getting into details. *shrug* :ride
With some exceptions of course :love
 
I'm not trying in any way to be mean here, but if you don't have friends, real friends, you're either boring, have some very bad or annoying traits, or you lack social skills. It's also possible that you're simply not putting yourself out there, how are you going to find friends by sitting at home and playing video games?

I do have real friends.(as mentioned in previous posts) The majority live elsewhere, making it very diffcult to get together to go to dinner or do stuff with. I do have a couple in the bay area that are married, engaged, etc etc. I realize that you are not trying to be mean or the like. From what I can tell, though we all have quirks, I am not boring or have any people repelling traits that I am aware of. As far as putting myself out there...I have tried and the result ends up being the same. Granted, as I do evaluate myself and my behaviors, I have not seen any reactions or other people's behavior that lead me to believe I am extremely annoying or the like

This is my viewpoint on the subject, rather than an attack on you as an individual. You're asking about when to let go, but the real problem is you can't find someone who wants to be around you, correct?
I am aware that this is your viewpoint and not an attack. It is very much appreciated as that and I am not taking any offense to what you have said. I am not sure if it is that they don't want to be around me or I have been compartmentalized in their life. I think, after reflecting to it all while responding to you post, it is more a case of having a lot of acquaintances vs. people I hang out with on a regular basis or that reach out to me vs. me reaching out to them.

You need to know who you want to be around, that's the first thing, what type of person, what qualities do they posses, what are their interests? Then you need to imagine what type of person you would need to be to interest them. The people you're cutting yourself off from aren't necessarily the problem, it's entirely possible, I'd say likely if it's more than a couple people that treat you the same way, that you are. It seems like you're trying to use them to fill a void in yourself, just as they are trying to use you to fill a need they have.

I, definitely, get your point on this one, and it could be very true. Before I moved up here, I did have a close set of friends. I ended up in the Bay Area for school, and for a long while my priority was school and work. So, I guess in that, I missed a lot of opportunity to make Bay Area friends, which could be a part of the downfall because most people my age, have their set of friends, or their lives pretty much in place....

People always use each other, if you just wanted company, you could donate time to an old folks home and sacrifice your time to listen to somebody drone on and on about their past exploits, but that's not what you've done, you want someone interesting and fun to use for your enjoyment, correct?
But perhaps I'm misinterpreting things.

It isn't about just wanting company. I realize that we all "use" each other for whatever reason...but if you are choosing to apply the word "use" to the fulfillment of being in a friendship, then I guess Yes, I want to find a situation where there is, for the most part, mutually beneficial use of each other for entertainment and enjoyment.
 
I have just a few friends, but lots of 'partners in crime' aka people that like to do the same things that I do. That really became apparent after meeting lots and lots of people on barf whom I find its best to just ride with, but not otherwise hang out with.. enjoying a mutually loved activity, but being comfortable with various degrees of a fairly shallow bond, and not getting into details. *shrug* :ride
With some exceptions of course :love

For the record, every time I see you post, I think for a moment that you're plumber. :laughing
 
I'm thinking I have fewer people now I consider to be my friends because it appears they are takers not givers.
 
OP, I totally feel you on this one - the few people that I've met since moving out here 6 years ago who could have fallen into the friend category always seem to end up with some reason why it never works out, be it distance, life moving in other directions, or they simply already have enough friends and aren't looking to add another.

I'll admit to being socially retarded though...I get along with people easily enough, but apparently suck at making anything beyond that happen. I just don't think I come across as being someone worth hanging out with.

It sucks not having anyone that you could just call up to invite out for a beer or to hang out since you got a free afternoon, especially when you see people around you managing to make those connections...granted, for me it doesn't help being a gal who'd rather hang out with guys when you're not looking for anything more than just friends. Was easier when I was in the military and law enforcement fields, and in college; proving to be rather difficult now :(
 
Dang, there are a bunch of bitter old fuckers in this thread.

If you want good friends, fucking focus on BEING one first and foremost. Focusing on 'they only call me when they want something' is a pretty good way to make sure that you're bitter and alone. Your recent experience should have shown you that already. It's obvious since you're posting this thread.

If you want to hang out with someone, fucking call them and invite them somewhere. Don't get all butt hurt when people don't invite you to a shindig. If you do get butt hurt about being left out all the time, you will be the overly sensitive whiny guy that nobody invites anywhere.
 
Dang, there are a bunch of bitter old fuckers in this thread.

If you want good friends, fucking focus on BEING one first and foremost. Focusing on 'they only call me when they want something' is a pretty good way to make sure that you're bitter and alone. Your recent experience should have shown you that already. It's obvious since you're posting this thread.

If you want to hang out with someone, fucking call them and invite them somewhere. Don't get all butt hurt when people don't invite you to a shindig. If you do get butt hurt about being left out all the time, you will be the overly sensitive whiny guy that nobody invites anywhere.


:orly




Get the fug off my lawn.


wait... wut?


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:jaded
 
I'll admit to being socially retarded though...I get along with people easily enough, but apparently suck at making anything beyond that happen. I just don't think I come across as being someone worth hanging out with.

It sucks not having anyone that you could just call up to invite out for a beer or to hang out since you got a free afternoon, especially when you see people around you managing to make those connections...granted, for me it doesn't help being a gal who'd rather hang out with guys when you're not looking for anything more than just friends. Was easier when I was in the military and law enforcement fields, and in college; proving to be rather difficult now :(

Well, I guess that we could be in the same boat because that is probably the most accurate description of how I feel at times. Hang out with folks, and have a great time, but seems like a one pop shot. And definitely hear you about the easier in the military. When I was in the military, it was definitely a lot easier.

Dang, there are a bunch of bitter old fuckers in this thread.

If you want good friends, fucking focus on BEING one first and foremost. Focusing on 'they only call me when they want something' is a pretty good way to make sure that you're bitter and alone. Your recent experience should have shown you that already. It's obvious since you're posting this thread.

If you want to hang out with someone, fucking call them and invite them somewhere. Don't get all butt hurt when people don't invite you to a shindig. If you do get butt hurt about being left out all the time, you will be the overly sensitive whiny guy that nobody invites anywhere.

Uh, try again...apparently what is obvious to you about me posting this thread is pretty much the opposite of what I was asking. I have been focused on BEING the good friend. I am the one that goes out of my way to help people, as well as I am the one always calling people to see what they are doing and to hang out.

My question was about when one stops putting out the effort because there is zero effort returned....thus the title of the thread: WHEN DO YOU STOP MAKING THE EFFORT. If I wasn't making an effort to spend time with people or to keep in contact with them, why would I be asking about when to stop?
 
My question was about when one stops putting out the effort because there is zero effort returned....thus the title of the thread: WHEN DO YOU STOP MAKING THE EFFORT. If I wasn't making an effort to spend time with people or to keep in contact with them, why would I be asking about when to stop?



See, that's the thing. The fact that you mention that there is zero effort returned means that you are, in fact, focusing on it. It means that you are expecting something in return for the effort that you're putting forward. This means that you are not actually focusing on really being a friend.

If you still don't see that, then there is nothing I can say here that will make you feel any better.
 
It's sometimes true that people will very much enjoy our company, doing things together, etc., but won't take the initiative to call or make an arrangement. We all have different idea about what we may expect "in return" from others. Still I think most of us have some sense of when a friendship seems to be mutual and when it isn't.

One thing is for sure, people who are already fully booked have a hard time making time for new friends. It may not mean you're less worthy; it may just be that other people got there first.
 
See, that's the thing. The fact that you mention that there is zero effort returned means that you are, in fact, focusing on it. It means that you are expecting something in return for the effort that you're putting forward. This means that you are not actually focusing on really being a friend.

If you still don't see that, then there is nothing I can say here that will make you feel any better.

It isn't about making me feel better. It was a curiosity. Yes, I am encountering something in my life and have come here to see what other people's opinion are. I am not looking for answers from any of you, because how I choose to handle things is ultimately my decision.

Also, It is apparent that our definitions of friendship are completely different, because by what you are writing, you are fine with friendship being a one way street. Also, because I can say that there is zero effort returned, does not mean I am focusing on it. It simply means I was stating the facts. In fact, the sun is going to come up tomorrow whether I like it or not...doesn't mean I am focusing on it.

As well, you know absolutely nothing about me, you have never met me, and you have no clue of the type of person I am...So, I am not sure how you can make the assumptions you are making about a subject you were wrong about in the first place.
 
Still I think most of us have some sense of when a friendship seems to be mutual and when it isn't.
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This is where my questions stem from. I always knew and understood friendship to be mutual...or any type of relationship for that matter...I guess that is what stemmed the question of when do you stop making the effort...because if it is apparent that the friendship is not mutual, then more than likely, it never will be (for whatever the reason or circumstance.)
 
This is where my questions stem from. I always knew and understood friendship to be mutual...or any type of relationship for that matter...I guess that is what stemmed the question of when do you stop making the effort...because if it is apparent that the friendship is not mutual, then more than likely, it never will be (for whatever the reason or circumstance.)

friends don't fuck with each other. the friendship is not mutual when it starts taking what feels like 'effort' to maintain in it. there's no one i consider a true friend, that i don't feel we could pick up where we left off at any given point, regardless of the circumstances, or how long it had been since we connected.
 
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