Joe, its a great effort your making to support your idea of whats happening. And you can argue your case with your charts, math, and graphs here, and it may help change a mind here on BARF, or seem to support your opinions as more erudite than the next. But there are hundreds of dedicated scientists with their own pet theories that contradict many of the leading man-caused reports, and as yet haven't defineatively stamped the white paper report with "MAN MADE" as the solitary reason for those who agree with global warming. Both sides are using this for political expediency, however those on the left are treating it as a cult and if anyone disagree's...they are "ignorant" or fools. FYI C02 is twice as high now (2008 was a cooling year) as it was during the warming period of 1900-1940 when nobody was driving cars. Go figure. I enjoy your defense of the facts as you interpret it, and i think its wiser to leave the science debate to those who really have a handle on the loads of data in their particular field, however noble your case is, it doesn't make it conclusive.
While any environmental greening we can do should be done for economic sense and global good it should be done in incremental steps based on more the free market model. It shouldn't come by lambasting guilt for being who we are as a leading superpower and portraying us as the devil country as I've heard. The cult like in the global warming crowd also shouldn't try and convince us with these tactics that we are going to die as evil contributors because we aren't imposing radical ideas or hasty plans to save the world from ourselves and our wasteful lives as Americans.
I've personally already gone as green as I can afford to be without moving into the country and living in a mud hut. But I am still not convinced what I am doing or the collective, is causing temperatures to cycle on this planet in such a short span of information we have acquired, and are able to interpret. There are some things we don't have science to explain. Science doesn't have all the answers, especially about our Earth core, the Sun, and all the other factors in Space, time, and history. The global warming crowd seems to want us to believe their "new religion", while making us feel bad about "ours".
I'm not worried about the US. I'm worried what happens when all those Chinese start using energy at the same rate as us.
If we carry on at current rates,
if predictions are correct, then it'll cause problems fairly soon, but pretty minor.
However, rates of usage/emissions are increasing at an exponential rate.
And I'm not trying to say it's definitive - what I'm trying to say is that saying 'It's absolutely not true' based on pure opinion, is stupid.
To say it's absolutely true, based on opinion, is also retarded.
It's only feasible to say, that
based upon current data and models, it's very, very likely.
And the political bullshit is only applicable inside the US. The rest of the world was coming to the same conclusions - under Thatcher's Conservative party in the UK, under innumerable Conservative government funded programs the world over, long, long ago.
But that's the issue, really. It's easy to dismiss if you lump it in with, 'just a bunch of liberal hysteria' than if you actually treat research as just that instead.
Just because the far-left wingnuts have chosen to hang their hat onto this 'cause' doesn't make the evidence any less relevant.
And to be sure, original projections are being changed all the time, by the scientists who originally created their portents of doom and sea levels rising by 50ft, only a few years ago.
It's lost on many that science is a continuous moving target, it's simple, 'this is the best we know right
now. Things may change...'
But to totally dismiss
all conclusions because they
might change is silly - they often do not.
And the overriding truth is - environment be damned - the changes being requested reduce polution and consumpion, period. That they may or may not have an effect on the environment is still being researched.
It's like the God argument - I can't say if he really does or does not exist, but based upon current evidence, it's likely not. But that doesn't mean I'm not open to the idea that he might in fact exist, it's just really
unlikely.
I read about this too. The idea being that the earth's rotation is slightly slowing (or was it speeding up?)due to the increased weight of the polar ice caps.
