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whole Foods costs how much?

I'd appreciate it if stores had signs explaining what the different types of apples taste like, but sadly most don't. They used to. I'm not going to remember all that shiz.
 
i shop at winco...pretty good prices...

just don't expect the employees to know the difference between an apple and a case of pepsi....
 
i shop at winco...pretty good prices...

just don't expect the employees to know the difference between an apple and a case of pepsi....

Serious? That sucks. The employees at my local store are exceptional. I love Winco.
 
That was in the "Economist", so it is an accepted worldwide standard...

'whole paycheck' was actually mentioned in SFWeekly prior to that. Like... 2004.
You guys should read more local ;)

It was in an article how a certain area in SF at that time didn't have 'any other grocery store besides WF AKA Whole Paycheck', because another big grocery store was just about to open.

I suspect you're talking about a The Econ article where they informed/lambasted the founder of WF how he made the statement that people don't deserve health care or something like that. He stirred a bit of horsepuckey with that one..
 
Can't stand Whole Foods, especially the one around here, but I like going to New Leaf ehen I'm in Santa Cruz. If I was single, I'd go there more often.
 
So much hate... It's a store, they sell some things that others don't so just another place to stop by to get things I like. :dunno
 
So much hate... It's a store, they sell some things that others don't so just another place to stop by to get things I like. :dunno

The level of vitriol is surprising :laughing


I was just astonished by the pricing for something you can get for half as much elsewhere, if not less
 
where do the people come from who shop here? What is their reasoning?

There are people out there for whom the extra money simply isn't a factor. I have to admit, it's a superior shopping experience.

But to me, that price difference is a factor.
 
The level of vitriol is surprising :laughing


I was just astonished by the pricing for something you can get for half as much elsewhere, if not less

oh
about that.

In my area I have *never* seen any prices for clean and/or organic stuff as the ones you quote.

I think kevin started a whole thread for what's really a local pricing phenomenon

also , what another has said in this thread: my local farmer's market prices aren't dirt cheap either. Quite not dirt cheap. In fact I think they simply go to TJ or WF and say "here, we should price these tomatoes exactly the same as this store".

BTW I don't go to WF..
 
Haven't been to Asshole Foods in years. Last time I was there, I asked a hipster dude where the Diet Coke was just to see the disapproving look on his pasty goth painted face.
 
The level of vitriol is surprising :laughing


I was just astonished by the pricing for something you can get for half as much elsewhere, if not less

When it comes to food, it's a need so basic that it is going to bring up emotions. And I think everyone beyond a certain age is cognizant of the historic long-term dismantling of mom and pop stores by supermarkets (as well as manhandling of farmers by agribiz) only for them to jack prices up once the feat was accomplished. So we have come full circle, especially in Hispanic communities, where mom and pop produce marts have come back, as well as the distraction of Farmer's Markets (though they are mostly expensive).

WF has been so successful in its over-pricing that a few new retailers have jumped in, "Sprouts" and "Henry's" and "Fresh and Easy (? something like that) figuring they could grab a share of that market by just beating the high WF pricing. I know that all three are now open or trying to open in the affluent areas of Diablo Valley. It tells you a lot.

It's weird, because we now have a full spectrum of groceries: Wal-Mart, Target; discount places run by traditional chains like Foods Co and Foods for Less; the traditional surviving retailers Safeway, Lucky, Raleys; the near-boutique Andronico's etc; Whole Foods itself and its new competitors (mentioned above). And of course the local mom-n-pop's produce mkts.

I would expect food trucks to start selling produce (if they don't already) once they have exhausted the phenom of serving ready-to-eat food. You already have the various roadside stands in areas with lax zoning....
 
Good points above ^^

I spent 7+ years in grocery (Lucky's to Albertsons back to Lucky's...because Albertson's ownership is a joke :laughing)

I really liked it, for the most part. The speed of the business. I went from bagger to produce and that never happened. Produce was legit! Lots of work but fun. Then was forced to check as the nature of the unions and changed. Transferred to the store in Buellton then in Goleta closest to UCSB where I became a manager.

That store manager was awesome! He didnt want me to move back home after college and was going to hook it up with cheap rent but staying wasnt an option. We had a long talk and he said the niche markets are the places to work in...Costco, Whole Foods, Trader Joes. He said these will survive but Safeway/Lucky's have to small margins and wont. I worked as the #3 manager at the Danville Albertsons and was trying to get them to pay for me to go back to school. I ended up talking to the #4 in the entire company....he said look into being a store manager and they dont hire out of college. That did it for me. I was 24 making the same as a guy twice my age and being a store manager with Sundays and Thursdays didnt do it for me.

Fresh N Easy is already going under. Believe they recently filed for chapter 11. People dont want to ALWAYS check they own stuff out.

Trader Joes and Whole Foods makes me people feel healthy even if they are areant. There arent name brands either so they think they are buying better quality stuff.
 
kudos to y'all for buying organic, which will increase demand and hopefully, eventually, increase supply and if we're lucky, drop prices.

a new whole foods is opening in Fremont this week. I'm hoping the nearby Raley's and Sprouts will be less busy due to it. But I'm sure I'll stop by and plunk down some cash there eventually.
 
I heard some pesticides are still allowed on organic food, no?
 
Good points above ^^

I spent 7+ years in grocery (Lucky's to Albertsons back to Lucky's...because Albertson's ownership is a joke :laughing)

I really liked it, for the most part. The speed of the business. I went from bagger to produce and that never happened. Produce was legit! Lots of work but fun. Then was forced to check as the nature of the unions and changed. Transferred to the store in Buellton then in Goleta closest to UCSB where I became a manager.

That store manager was awesome! He didnt want me to move back home after college and was going to hook it up with cheap rent but staying wasnt an option. We had a long talk and he said the niche markets are the places to work in...Costco, Whole Foods, Trader Joes. He said these will survive but Safeway/Lucky's have to small margins and wont. I worked as the #3 manager at the Danville Albertsons and was trying to get them to pay for me to go back to school. I ended up talking to the #4 in the entire company....he said look into being a store manager and they dont hire out of college. That did it for me. I was 24 making the same as a guy twice my age and being a store manager with Sundays and Thursdays didnt do it for me.

Fresh N Easy is already going under. Believe they recently filed for chapter 11. People dont want to ALWAYS check they own stuff out.

Trader Joes and Whole Foods makes me people feel healthy even if they are areant. There arent name brands either so they think they are buying better quality stuff.

Albertsons in Danville? You mean the one that's Lucky's now? I don't like that place all that much.......poor lighting, old smell...

Or is that owned by SaveMart?

Gotta hand it to Safeway, for a generic grocery chain, they've done a good job trying to make it seem upscale inside, with a great wine section and good lighting.... Also I like the Just4You program, you can browse their site and load coupons onto your Safeway card
 
Yes, there's a laundry list of "organic" pesticides, and some are pretty toxic to humans, like elemental sulfur.

simple sulfur is toxic? isn't that stuff in basically everything already, kinda like carbon? :laughing
 
It's got low acute toxicity, but it can be mis-incorporated into proteins, disrupting enzyme function. Selenium also does this. Chronic exposure is no good.

The sulfur we are regularly exposed to is not typically elemental.

EDIT: I just looked for some papers to confirm this, and I didn't find anything about protein incorporation. I just found a bunch of stuff about respriatory toxicity, but that's not from oral exposure. So never mind what I said about sulfur. I was parroting a toxicology prof I had who hated organic food laws and was a proponent of GMOs and synthetic pesticides.

But it's true there's a huge number of pesticides that can be applied to certified organic foods, and that we are not typically exposed to sulfur in its elemental form.
 
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