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Why only European dealerships allow test rides?

jmann

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What's up with Japanese bike dealers not allowing test rides? Even for a serious buyer? Was shopping for a new 1000cc sport bike last month. None of the Japanese brand even allowed a test ride. Some wouldn't even turn the engine on. Even dealerships where I've bought multiple bikes from recently. Originally was leaning towards the new R1 or CBR1000RR. Checked around and no one would accommodate. Decided to test ride the BMW S1000RR, RSV4, and 675R. Decided to get RSV4, because liked it most out of those 3 I was actually able to ride. Pretty sure I would of been equally happy getting a R1, CBR, or GSXR. Never got the chance though.
 
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Some dealer just lost a sale!
Yes this sucks. I'm interested in an SP in the near future. The Aprilia was on my list but I'm not sure I'd trust the reliability at $24,000.
 
Most likely because the average European customer tends to be older and more experienced

And also because the price tags are higher, requiring more effort to make a sale.
 
I got a test ride on an R3 before purchase. Still, this seems to be an exception to the rule.

CJ
 
Squids wad Japanese bikes.

North Bay Motorsport used to do demo rides regularly, until some 250 riding newbie flipped a sportbike by grabbing too much brake.
 
American Motorcycle dealers (Harley and Indian) allow test rides as well but that's not what your looking for. Japanese bikes have the lowest price point, that may play into it.
 
Maybe tiered licenses for the European counties will help mitigate accidents - IE: Your avg newbie will not be allowed to test ride a 600cc much less liter bike.
 
American Motorcycle dealers (Harley and Indian) allow test rides as well but that's not what your looking for. Japanese bikes have the lowest price point, that may play into it.

Isn't that because they have some giant umbrella insurance policy to cover everything? The rates would be too astronomical to offer the same thing at a Hondahasaki dealer to offer the same I imagine.

Last H-D I test rode at the dealer, they didn't need to see my insurance card.
 
Contra Costa Power Sports in Concord allows demos.
 
Isn't that because they have some giant umbrella insurance policy to cover everything? The rates would be too astronomical to offer the same thing at a Hondahasaki dealer to offer the same I imagine.

Last H-D I test rode at the dealer, they didn't need to see my insurance card.

Probably more mature riders at the American dealerships. Too many young squids looking at the Japanese bikes?
 
From my understanding they're able to stay in business without having to give one. Depending on the dealership, they also don't get many models to allow for a "demo" bike.

Harleys sales are declining, they're more inclined to give a demo for a sale.
 
Yamaha has a demo truck carrying all the latest models driving around the country and stopping at dealerships to give demo rides.
 
A lot of it depends on how you approach the purchase. Dealers are pretty adept and discerning the tire kicker from the real buyer. I've never been refused a test ride regardless of brand or model. I narrow down my choice and then talk price. When a price is agreed upon I made the purchase conditional on the test ride and if for any reason I don't like it, no obligation on my part.

We should remember that lots of buyers want zero mile bikes because you never know what some one did when they got around the corner with that new bike you are now buying. Dealers would have to disclose if someone dumped it even if they fixed it and have you priced the cost of plastics? Newbie dumps it and the dealer is out a couple grand just to make it right and no sale. Insurance, that costs a lot of money if you're going to let some 19 year old hop on a Gixxer and head out for a spin. If you bought a new bike and had to sell for some reason and that hotshot shows up with a laughing buddy, would you let them take it out for a ride without some reasonable assurance they are there to buy?

When a dealer expressed hesitancy, this worked for me: here is my check for the purchase price subject to a test ride that meets "my" satisfaction and regardless of the reason, I can decide not to buy if I don't like it". Works 100% of the time so far.

It can be tough if you want to compare bikes but this is BARF, bet there is someone willing to if nothing else, take you for a spin on their bike to see how it feels and maybe even let you do the front end rider thing. If not, you can rent almost any bike if you look around enough.

Last thing on the damages part. No dealer would want to let someone ride a mid priced bike that if dumped will cost more than half the new price to fix up. Kiddies wanting to ride hot bikes can and will do amazing damage within seconds, sone before they even get into first gear, right in the lot.
 
I believe a lot of the European brands build test rides into their dealer model and get some support from the MFG to have demo bikes.

The Japanese mfgs don't seem to give a damn and, subsequently, their dealer networks don't etheir.

There's only a few Japanese bikes the interest me, and I wouldn't buy them without a test ride.

The whole demo truck thing can suck it, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to work around their schedule to test ride. I want to call up a dealership an come in for a test ride, then buy the bike if I like it.
 
Because there are too many 'muricans not enough smart, respectable, honest, common sense Americans.
 
We should remember that lots of buyers want zero mile bikes because you never know what some one did when they got around the corner with that new bike you are now buying.

There's also the matter that many high strung sportbikes and so on have absurdly restrictive break in periods. Don't go over 4k rpm for the first 200miles, then not over 6k for 400 miles, and so on.

What are the odds that anyone coming in to test ride isn't going to sample the power even a little bit?
 
It's hard to fork over almost $18k for a new bike when you can't even ride it. Yes, there are reviews and all that info online. Still you won't know for sure until you can get some seat time in one. Wasn't really interested in the RSV4 and hardly knew anything about it. The test ride and sales dept sealed the deal. Once they get you there, they really make it hard for you to leave without a bike.
 
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