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WTF with the chemtrail/contrails whatever?

It's well known that the AEC is getting rid of nuclear waste by forcing the airlines to spray it out along with the Thorazine laden chemicals they dump daily in the millions of tons!

I thot it was aluminum dust that makes snow flammable!:laughing
 
You hit it with El Nino. Last strong El Nino was 1998. Were you watching the skies back then? http://ggweather.com/enso/oni.htm

As for the cool clouds... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_cloud

Thanks for bein a fellow weather geek!:thumbup

Next question: why, on the doppler radar maps, is there frequently a circular formation of what looks like rain (because its green and yellow), northeast of Rio Vista?? Often on completely dry days, it looks like its raining there. This is a year round deal that I see it. Because of the drought, I have worried every possible storm, as well as wondering what my moto-commute might be like...I keep wanting to ask Prince Charles, I mean, Bill Martin from KTVU about it, should I have a celebrity encounter (he lives in Orinda, so its plausible).
 
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I've seen some of those clouds recently. Looked kinda like these...

http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/cld/cldtyp/mdl/altcu.rxml

Took this a few months back. Taken from near down town San Jose. Almost never get a sunset like that in SJ.

http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/cld/cldtyp/mdl/altcu.rxml

One of the first things I noticed when moving out west was the difference in clouds. You don't seem to get the variation that you get elsewhere in the country here in the bay area.

I have noticed variation more this year for sure.
 
Thanks for bein a fellow weather geek!:thumbup

Next question: why, on the doppler radar maps, is there frequently a circular formation of what looks like rain (because its green and yellow), northeast of Rio Vista?? Often on completely dry days, it looks like its raining there. This is a year round deal that I see it. Because of the drought, I have worried every possible storm, as well as wondering what my moto-commute might be like...I keep wanting to ask Prince Charles, I mean, Bill Martin from KTVU about it, should I have a celebrity encounter (he lives in Orinda, so its plausible).

This page talks a bit about Radar. http://www.findlocalweather.com/radar_loop/ca/rio+vista.html

Specifically notice this part... "The dBZ values increase as the strength of the signal returned to the radar increases. Each reflectivity image you see includes one of two color scales. One scale (far left) represents dBZ values when the radar is in clear air mode (dBZ values from -28 to +28). The other scale (near left) represents dBZ values when the radar is in precipitation mode (dBZ values from 5 to 75)."

On this page if you zoom in and hit play you can see 2 green blips for a few minutes. http://abc7news.com/weather/doppler/

On days like today Radar would be set to clear air mode. Now look at that area on Google maps...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/R...0x808537ace8c753f3:0x69fa7cc5f0a9f9a9!6m1!1e1

You've got onshore air flow taking the cool, air from over the bay, funneling it up the delta and crossing that big brown patch of land. Just a guess, but the temperature change the density of the air maybe causing fog or possibly causing change in the density of the air. When it's set to clear air, changes like that may get picked up.

Just a guess.
 
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Here's the reason as explained to me by my possibly crazy friend:

The chemtrails are releasing nano particles into the atmosphere, preventing raindrops from forming in clouds and causing the drought. This is perpetrated by the Illuminati to kill and gain corporate control over the American food supply.



So, that's what you're seeing.
 
Agreed that your friend is crazy. Assuming they are right, why do they do that in the middle of summer when there is no sight of rain coming for months on end. You're friend doesn't know what "nano particles" are and is just regurgitating what they are reading.
 
They're releasing a substance that will spread out in the sky and block out solar rays. The goal is to counteract global warming by "global dimming"
 
A week and a half ago, while out walking at lunch, I notice at least a dozen of these things streaked across the sky above with a jet making another. I saw commercial jets too, going at right angles and they weren't emitting any trail.

This morning, the letter "A" is spelled out above the Diablo Valley.

I mean, c'mon. What is up with this? We have had extremely weird cirrus-y type clouds simultaneous with them too.

I know, laugh away, but I really would like to know if recreational contrails are considered okay by our militiary-industrial overlords or what.

High altitude airway J126, J65, and J84 make an A right in that area. Also there are lots of airways that make a V, and an aircraft could get vectored in a perpendicular direction to make an A.


Some people believe that you can make the chemtrails disappear by spraying vinegar. I encourage all Barfers to try it. :laughing
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They're releasing a substance that will spread out in the sky and block out solar rays. The goal is to counteract global warming by "global dimming"

Meh, just figure out a way to force a volcano to erupt and you'll counter the global warming trend a bit. The bigger the eruption the more effective the counter.
 
Agreed that your friend is crazy. Assuming they are right, why do they do that in the middle of summer when there is no sight of rain coming for months on end. You're friend doesn't know what "nano particles" are and is just regurgitating what they are reading.

and your self-proclaimed knowledge of atmospheric science and/or jet propulsion isn't just "regurgitating what you've read/heard"?

to answer your question, "they do this" all year round. just at select times. only a fool in denial can't tell the difference between commercial jet vapor trails that disappear rather quickly, and thick/billowy/persistent streaming-white trails that hold shape for up to an hour and then spread out and remain for many more hours, turning an otherwise clear day into a hazy "cloudy" mess. btw, I recall a couple of light rain showers over the last few months in the early a.m

anyway, geo-engineering is real. it's been going on for decades. no need to call out names of questionable secret societies... there's plenty of documentation to be gleaned out there on the net (for now, anyway) of govt-sponsored plans of weather engineering going back to the 70s.

instead of being online witticists and know-it-alls, many of you would be well-served challenging your groupthink notions and (re)educating yourselves.
 
Agreed that your friend is crazy. Assuming they are right, why do they do that in the middle of summer when there is no sight of rain coming for months on end. You're friend doesn't know what "nano particles" are and is just regurgitating what they are reading.

:rolleyes

I was just paraphrasing. There was a lot more detail, but the material didn't really warrant taking extensive notes.
 
Wow...just wow.
 
Agreed that your friend is crazy. Assuming they are right, why do they do that in the middle of summer when there is no sight of rain coming for months on end. You're friend doesn't know what "nano particles" are and is just regurgitating what they are reading.

Yep.

Google "Kelvin effect"

The presence of particles makes it possible for droplets to condense. Putting nanoparticles into the atmosphere would enhance droplet formation.
 
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Jet engines yo! How do they work?

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and your self-proclaimed knowledge of atmospheric science and/or jet propulsion isn't just "regurgitating what you've read/heard"?

to answer your question, "they do this" all year round. just at select times. only a fool in denial can't tell the difference between commercial jet vapor trails that disappear rather quickly, and thick/billowy/persistent streaming-white trails that hold shape for up to an hour and then spread out and remain for many more hours, turning an otherwise clear day into a hazy "cloudy" mess. btw, I recall a couple of light rain showers over the last few months in the early a.m

anyway, geo-engineering is real. it's been going on for decades. no need to call out names of questionable secret societies... there's plenty of documentation to be gleaned out there on the net (for now, anyway) of govt-sponsored plans of weather engineering going back to the 70s.

instead of being online witticists and know-it-alls, many of you would be well-served challenging your groupthink notions and (re)educating yourselves.

You talk of "educating ourselves"

The problem with doing that is, there's so much bullshit out there. Any conspiracy theorist can create a website, selectively providing information that "proves" THEIR point of view. While selectively leaving out other information that doesn't.

Meanwhile, scientists have already explained how these things can happen. But I guess that isn't good enough.

I am not a scientist, but it seems to me that if it was so easy, as you claim, to distinguish "chemtrails" from natural ones, then smarter people than you or I would have already done so long ago, documented it, and taken their evidence to the proper authorities and/or media.

Not to mention that in order to blanket a sufficiently large part of the country, for so many years, thousands of people would probably need to be knowingly involved.

Are we proposing that only a handful of guys are tampering with the nation's fuel supply? Then they wouldn't have any control over when and where that tampered fuel was used. We'd see chemtrails everyday, everywhere. Since that isn't happening, I guess that rules out that theory.

Or are we proposing that some sort of extra equipment/chemicals are loaded onto each flight, selectively? Then that would exponentially increase the number of people involved.
 
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