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Yamaha T7 could be in showrooms next year

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1991 Yamaha YZE750T ...

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Yamaha YZE850T ...

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... some more ideas about what the T7 should be ... :laughing

... here is what "T" stands for:
Ténéré: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ténéré
"Most of the Ténéré is a flat basin, once the bed of the prehistoric Lake Chad.
In the north, the Ténéré is a vast sand sheet - the true, featureless 'Ténéré' of legend ..."
... Yamaha's got the needs of your lightweight, single-track,
plated-dirt-bike right here ... :twofinger


Stephane Peterhansel
Paris Dakar Champion, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1997 & 1998 ...
Yamaha YZE850T
440 lbs dry ...
80 hp
111 mph top speed
15 gallons fueled up ... :ride:party

The concept was clear: provide an
Adventure motorcycle
that embodies the dream of entering the prestigious Paris-Dakar.
They narrowed down the absolute requirements of such a model to four main points:
1) be comfortable to ride even after long hours in the saddle,
2) have high power to enable riding at high speeds,
3) have performance that inspires confidence in savannah and forest trail riding and
4) have the parts and functions needed for city riding.
However, some of these were conflicting qualities.
To guide them through the difficulties of achieving these objectives and
define the model image, the team chose two key phrases:
1) decisively out-perform the competition in savannah riding,
2) cruise comfortably non-stop at 150 kph (93 mph)
for more than two hours ...
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For privateer riders wanting to participate in the Rally,
Yamaha Motor France released its own specially built production models
designed specifically for the Dakar.
They sold the required 15 units each of the twin-cylinder
XTZ850R and single-cylinder XT660R, for a total of 30 units.
At the time, the XTZ850R sold for about 140,000 francs
(roughly $25,000 USD at the time).
These machines continued to help privateers realize
their dream of competing in the Paris-Dakar.
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Yamaha Tenere/Super Tenere History:
https://global.yamaha-motor.com/showroom/offroadmania/ch4/


see you in
the bivouac,
-- SFMCjohn
 
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Lunch Box said:
Eldrick, I hope that you are right. Remember, however, that they didn't bring the Tenere here. Just the S10.
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Yeah, I think that was a big mistake on their part. I still want a 660 Tenere but, I don't think that 660 engine was being used in any other bike in the US?

What gives me hope is that Yamaha is making use of a motor/exhaust system which already meets US EPA regulations since it's coming straight out of the FZ07. No added cost, therefore easier (cheaper) to import = (hopefully) no brainer. :cool
 
SRAD600 said:
Yeah, I think that was a big mistake on their part. I still want a 660 Tenere but, I don't think that 660 engine was being used in any other bike in the US?

What gives me hope is that Yamaha is making use of a motor/exhaust system which already meets US EPA regulations since it's coming straight out of the FZ07. No added cost, therefore easier (cheaper) to import = (hopefully) no brainer. :cool
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Yup. I was thinking the same thing. Fingers crossed.
 
I rode a CB500X one time around the block I was surpised how light it was. If only Honda will sell one like the cb500x rallyraid kit stock it would be a great do all adventure bike.

Jenny Morgan did what I'm doing right now cross country + TAT on a Rallyraid equiped CB500X.
 
Dream on. Try writing a letter to Yamaha asking about the status of this bike and whether or not you'll be able to buy one here in the near future.

Here's the address:

Yamaha Motor Corporation, USA
6555 Katella Avenue
Cypress, CA 90630

I'll bet the response you'll get is, "Thank you for your interest in Yamaha motorcycles."
 
WFO said:
Dream on. Try writing a letter to Yamaha asking about the status of this bike and whether or not you'll be able to buy one here in the near future.

Here's the address:

Yamaha Motor Corporation, USA
6555 Katella Avenue
Cypress, CA 90630

I'll bet the response you'll get is, "Thank you for your interest in Yamaha motorcycles."
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For privateer riders wanting to participate in the Rally,
Yamaha Motor France released its own specially built production models
designed specifically for the Dakar.
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... god bless Yamaha Motor France ...
they know how to get it done ... :laughing
 
HadesOmega said:
Jenny Morgan did what I'm doing right now cross country + TAT on a Rallyraid equiped CB500X.
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The Rallyraid-kitted CB500X is a cool bike, for sure:
https://adventure-motorcycling.com/honda-cb500x-rally-raid-5000-mile-review/

... 487lbs as tested ... :ride

Jenny Morgan's kitted CB500X tested
along with a late-model KLR in the Santa Barbara mountains:
http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/rally-raid-cb500x-review/

Jenny Morgan's 12,000 mile Rally CB500X write-up ...
she claims 440 lbs:
http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/cb500x-adventure-great-bike-for-the-tat/

(I will say that Jenny is trying to sell CB500X rally kits, so I'd
have to see that 440lb claim to believe it, even though
I'd love for it to be true ... that's why I tend to post
weights for race bikes, as being more reliable/believable ... if Yamaha USA
does not bring in the F7, I'd say it will be due--in part--
to the their belief that potential USA buyers will be too disappointed
in the F7's final real-world-weight ... the USA is living in a golden-age
of plated-dirt-bikes, and that has lead to unrealistic expectations of
what two-cylinder Adventure bikes can/should weigh ... :laughing )

... having said all that :blah
I'll be disappointed (and I'll bet
you a nickel I'll be disappointed) if the F7
weighs more than 450 lbs ...
not that I'm in the market for
a five-figure new bike ... :rolleyes

see you around
the campfire,
-- SFMCjohn
 
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I'd bet Yamaha USA does bring in the T7. Why? Look at sales of Honda's Africa Twin. It's kicking butt, winning every shoot out. One of the first "big" ADV bikes that does not ride like a PIG. Not a single track weapon but a good travel bike, mild Baja, dirt roads, two track ... and a great road bike too. (well, good enough anyway)

My guess is the Africa Twin would run circles round Jenny's kitted CB500X, do everything better. It's more money but will hold resale better than a Kit Bike, has decent HP and will come with tons of Honda accessories as time goes on. A kitted bike?

But IMO, the T7 will do well. It will attract even more GS and BIG KTM riders wanting to down size a bit, not spend HUGE money yet still want to look cool at Starbuck's, ride a bit of dirt or take trips to "Adventure-like" places!

It will probably weigh in close to 500 lbs. but for most it will see mostly paved roads and a few dirt roads. Will pack up nicely, carry a passenger and will
NEVER BREAK down and hopefully will be mostly owner serviceable.

You won't hear much about the TRUE costs of what it takes to keep a KTM 1290 or
R1200GS-W on the road. Add the Ducati ADV in there too. Big money admission fee and BIG money on basic maintenance ... some which is not too
owner friendly. :ride
 
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Seems like a nice bike. Probably not for me right now, but perhaps down the road.
The ADV market is growing, and why not get a piece of that pie. It'll work for some, not for others.
 
Africa Twin is another cool bike ... :ride

... claimed weight 503 - 534 lbs ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Africa_Twin

I'd forgotten about seavoyage's cool BARF-sticky-d
"What do they really weigh?" thread ...

... pic on my own bike a bit ...
I'm in the process of buying
another pre-gen KLR parts-bike ... :rolleyes

Kawasaki KLR650, 401 lbs, Motorcyclist, Sep. 1989, Oct. 1990, Sept. 1992 (6.1 gallons)
Kawasaki KLR650, 399 lbs, Cycle, August 1988 (6.1 gallons)
Kawasaki KLR650, 398 lbs, Cycle, April 1987 (6.1 gallons)

... probably 30hp, and I can't pick it up when
it's loaded for camping without unloading it, ha.

... god bless Kawasaki! :afm199

... looking forward to seeing the T7 ...
 
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The T7 has such a great engine character it blows the gutless f700 away. The AT is a good bike bit its $$$ and its heavy. I dread having to pick that beast up.
 
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HadesOmega said:
The T7 has such a great engine character it blows the gutless f700 away
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... I'm pretty sure the late-model Africa Twin has a 270 degree crank,
as did the Yamaha parallel-Twin Dakar race bikes of the 1990s
and several production
Yamahas ... I'm guessing the F7 has a 270 degree crank? :dunno

... I'm not too familiar with the BMW parallel-Twin engines ...
(edit: F700 has a 360 deg crank)

Wikipedia on straight-Twin engines:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-twin_engine#

The 270° crank has an ignition sequence and an engine balance that yields something of the feel of a V-twin. Unlike 180° & 360° parallel-twins, a 270° engine in motion never has both pistons stationary,[10] so its flywheel momentum is continuous.[3] With less vibration than a 360° crank, and a more regular firing pattern than a 180° crank, a 270° crank results in a smoother engine. Any residual unevenness of the 270° firing interval has been claimed to deliver power to the rear tyre more effectively.
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I've ridden the fz07 and f700gs and the fz07 has a kinda tractor like torque line is what I'l it doesnt have a curve because it has the same torque through the powerband. The F700 kinda just feels like it has no power till you rev it higher. The fz engine has good characteristic for a dualsport engine imo.
 
I really hope they bring it here. I was really keen on getting a Tenere (XT660Z) but they were never brought here to the states. I think the reason that they don't bring the midsized bike here to the states is that it takes away from the sales of their big bikes and they make more money on those. I have been looking for a bike that I can do longer trips, with camping gear and still be able to do moderate off road on.
 
... lighter than a KLR!
... more dirt-capable than a Wee!
... less expensive than a KTM!

:laughing

"Going the distance: It’s hard to be definitive,
but the petrol tank beneath the jousting skirt
appears to be quite large – we’d estimate 21 litres –
which combined with the frugal engine
could easily give the T7 a 250-mile range."

:thumbup:ride:party
 
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Not holding my breath that it's coming to the USA, but if it does I'll want to see it..
 
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