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8 reasons to buy this type of motorcycle

NoTraffic said:
FWIW, I laughed my ass off after a friend bought a Tesla, installed the home charging unit - the following week PG&E cut off electricity.

:rofl
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Gas stations were closed also then. I can charge my EVs with a generator--as long as it has gas. I have a 4KW generator in my RV with a full 50 gallon gas tank.

-Don- Reno
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
The weird advertising and propaganda actually make me suspicious of the whole thing.
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Tesla refuses to do any type of advertising at all. I find that EVs get very little mention, so I help with it.

I find there is endless BS aboot the disadvantages of EVs. Most by people who never even have driven one, of course.

But I do agree they are not for everybody but the same goes for ICE vehicles.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
I remain dedicated to ICE's.

Most of my riding is sport riding varying from 100 to 400 miles in a day.

So not in the market.... yet.

Perhaps one day. I do want to feel the whoosh one day soon though. :ride
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
The E-bike enthusiasts remind me of people who ask when I'm going to have kids. (Spoiler alert: NEVER).
It's cool that you like them, but they're not for everyone. I'm not opposed to riding someone else's E-bike, and I have ridden the bulk of the current offerings. They're fine, and I appreciate other people's enthusiasm. The bikes simply don't appeal to me. I have no expectations of the industry changing course in order to lure me to purchase one. Quite frankly, I don't think there's anything that would tempt me to add one to my stable, let alone switch. I think I'd probably give up riding first.
The weird advertising and propaganda actually make me suspicious of the whole thing. You shouldn't have to try so hard to convince people to buy your product.
Electric cars are similar in the constant ad campaigns and focused news websites (cleantechnica, teslarati, elecktrek, etc). If your product can't be newsworthy or notable without biased specialty websites, it's likely not that good.
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How do you know someone rides an E-bike? They're going to tell you all about it.
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
and I have ridden the bulk of the current offerings.
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Which ones have you ridden and what did you like and not like about them?

My only complaint is not enough charge stations east and north of here. Has more to do with the infrastructure than the bikes themselves.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
DonTom said:
Which ones have you ridden and what did you like and not like about them?

My only complaint is not enough charge stations east and north of here. Has more to do with the infrastructure than the bikes themselves.

-Don- Reno, NV
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I've ridden both Energicas, the Zero FXS, Zero DS, the Alta SM, and Harley's joke. I've also ridden some modified race built Altas.

Even the race Altas had a linear and smooth power delivery. The bikes are just not exciting to ride. They're reasonable, but I wouldn't go beyond that. The Zero could do a burnout at exactly 1 mph. That was giggle worthy, but a parlor trick at best.

Even the sport bikes still felt like appliances. Completely adequate appliances, allowing me to completely disengage from the riding experience and become curious if I had any new text messages or emails.

Basically the motorcycle equivalent of a nap.

This comes from a guy who thinks the NC700X DCT is the best do-all bike ever.

It's also worth pointing out that all of my e-motorcycle experiences required the bike be trucked to the riding locations, as they couldn't do a round trip for the recreational riding without a mid day charge. The only charge facilities are standard 110v outlets.

Something like the Zero DS could do 40% of my errand trips. That's not exactly worth registering and insuring the bike, even if it were free. No current e-motorcycle option could facilitate my recreational riding.
 
Dude, RFR, you gotta ride my Alta.

Eight reasons are not necessary.
Only one. They be better for the right applications.

No range really, compared to an ICE, but when that is not an issue, fuckin A, electric is sweet, assuming you are not on some heavy pig trying to have some range.

Different shit fits in different places. I sold my KTM, and rarely ride my TM 250 2T, and if I had an Alta SM I would never ride the Black Dream. But the Black Dream way rocks, eh?

First World Problems.
 
I went to protest jamming a pipeline under the Missouri River and endangering thousands of people who depend on that river for their drinking water at Standing Rock. I saw how the oil companies hire special forces goons who lie (psyops) and threaten prayerful elders and peaceful protesters.

I vowed to not buy their stinkin' planet-destroying fuel again.

I now have an electric moto (Brammo Empulse R), an electric car (Chevy Bolt EV) and an electric bicycle (Specialized Como). The right tool for the right task.

Do I miss gasoline fumes at the filling station, disposing of dirty oil and filters, busting my knuckles trying to get that stuck plug to break loose, futzing with valve shims? Not so much.

And I really like flipping off gas stations as I glide by. YMMV.
 
Jalopyshoppe said:
I've ridden both Energicas, the Zero FXS, Zero DS, the Alta SM, and Harley's joke. I've also ridden some modified race built Altas.

Even the race Altas had a linear and smooth power delivery. The bikes are just not exciting to ride. They're reasonable, but I wouldn't go beyond that. The Zero could do a burnout at exactly 1 mph. That was giggle worthy, but a parlor trick at best.

Even the sport bikes still felt like appliances. Completely adequate appliances, allowing me to completely disengage from the riding experience and become curious if I had any new text messages or emails.

Basically the motorcycle equivalent of a nap.

This comes from a guy who thinks the NC700X DCT is the best do-all bike ever.

It's also worth pointing out that all of my e-motorcycle experiences required the bike be trucked to the riding locations, as they couldn't do a round trip for the recreational riding without a mid day charge. The only charge facilities are standard 110v outlets.

Something like the Zero DS could do 40% of my errand trips. That's not exactly worth registering and insuring the bike, even if it were free. No current e-motorcycle option could facilitate my recreational riding.
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This!

.did you mention to many $$$ per riding time
Too much to buy vs ride time.
 
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I’m gonna add electric bike owners to my list of “people you don’t have to ask because they’ll make sure to tell you”

1) Vegans
2) Atheists
3) Crossfitters
4) Electric Motorcycle Owners
 
orbframe said:
I’m gonna add electric bike owners to my list of “people you don’t have to ask because they’ll make sure to tell you”

1) Vegans
2) Atheists
3) Crossfitters
4) Electric Motorcycle Owners
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If a vegan does CrossFit and owns an electric motorcycle, which do they talk about first?
 
They used their e bike to get themselves to CrossFit and then had a vegan avocadoes toast afterwards
 
You're making people who own E-motos look bad with this clickbait shit.
 
I think ebikes just don't work for most people yet. Why I am not even considering one even if they were cheaper than gas.

I don't have a garage and can't just run a power cord down from my upstairs apartment. So I couldn't use an E bike even if it was free. This is equally true for a electric car.

If I go to the trouble of unlocking, uncovering and pulling the bike out I always ride over 120 miles (probably average 150-160). Make a day of it going somewhere for lunch.

I do road trips, again range and charging an issue.



I guess I see EBikes kinda like electric cars. People say how great they are and feel their saving the environment. While still having a gas SUV in the garage at home. IMO were just not there yet.
 
Not only are we not there yet but what happens to the batteries when they go belly up.
That's some dangerous waste to have to deal with too.
How do they dispose of them? What are their actual lifespans to begin with?

Help solve one problem and a creating an even bigger one.
 
norcalkid said:
I guess I see EBikes kinda like electric cars. People say how great they are and feel their saving the environment. While still having a gas SUV in the garage at home.
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I own two ICE SUVs, But as long as they sit in the garage rarely being used, it makes little difference.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
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