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Death Valley Tour, April 14-18, 2012

Rod, This looks like a great trip on a fantastic route. I am wondering how much travel there is on dirt roads. I know there is about 19 miles in the Carrizo Plains NM but is there more? Would it be disruptive for an individual rider to bypass the dirt portions? Thanks, John
 
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The Smokester said:
Rod, This looks like a great trip on a fantastic route. I am wondering how much travel there is on dirt roads. I know there is about 19 miles in the Carrizo Plains NM but is there more? Would it be disruptive for an individual rider to bypass the dirt portions? Thanks, John
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Hi John, aside from Carrizo all dirt is optional and will be in DV. There you'll get to do any kind of exploring that you and your bike are up for. :thumbup

And of course you could even choose some other route and skip Carrizo. But then you'll miss out on some awesome first-night camping. :teeth
 
seavoyage said:
Rod,

I'll be at WARPED VIII. How do I link up with you guys for Death Valley?

If feasible count me in.
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Cool! Just mosey on over to Beatty on the 15th, we'll be arriving that afternoon. Keep an eye on this thread for the hotel selection; I'll announce one this week.
 
I'd love to join your ride but don't want to ride back by myself.
Anybody doing the 1-day trip?
 
I'm not sure yet, but, if I can, I'll try to do at least what Rod suggested for the 1 day trip to Hwy 25 & cross to Hwy 1 through Fort Hunter Liggett or anywhere. Just want to go back through Hwy 1. I 'll let you know at least 2 days before April 14th.


sv2007 said:
I'd love to join your ride but don't want to ride back by myself.
Anybody doing the 1-day trip?
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Rooms

Looks like there are 6 hotels in Beatty. Two of them have a pool (also jacuzzi) that will be open. They are:

Death Valley Inn & RV Park (formerly the Burro Inn)
A group rate at 2 per room would be $59.95 including tax.

Stagecoach Hotel & Casino
Two per room is 64.26 or 75.16 including tax.

Anyone have experience with either of these, or have a preference?
 
rodr said:
Cool! Just mosey on over to Beatty on the 15th, we'll be arriving that afternoon. Keep an eye on this thread for the hotel selection; I'll announce one this week.
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Tentative plan

April 14: From WARPED VIII to Death Valley Refuel/Water break at Panamint Springs and Stovepipe Wells Village . Proposed Route: http://g.co/maps/vmdht Contingency stop: Beatty.

Route is good for ADV bikes: Hard slab and n00b skill level off pavement. Ride Sunrise to Sunset.

or

A shorter 284 mile R/T ride (5.25 hrs): Kernville (WARPED VIII) to Olancha Dunes http://www.duneguide.com/sand_dune_g...ncha_dunes.htm (See KTM Trail ride: http://www.photo2pixel.com/OD1.html ) to Paramint Springs for Refuel (Too bad we can't sample the brew and ride back). Route: http://g.co/maps/gxun9
 
Rod,
The Burro Inn is the name of the place I was thinking of when we talked about Hotels on Sunday. I've stayed there a handful of times and always enjoyed it. Rooms are ok and the restaurant won't poison you. The casino is minimal which keeps the noise level down a bit. Overall, the place is just funky enough to add to our DV experience.

That said, the Stagecoach is newer and probably more modern. Their casino is much larger and probably more active/noisy. They do have more amenities like a gas station, convenience store, ice cream parlor, etc. I wouldn't say no to staying there either.

Both are good choices for our purposes.
 
My vote would be for the stage coach or gregs suggestion. A little night entertainment would be a good thing. Also think a little planing is order as we get closer to the ride date, no point in everyone bringing a stove and gas for camping when one could bring gas and another the burner for example, who's bringing a tent? Willing to share? or are we all on our own, I think with a little planning we could all cut down on the amount of stuff we need to carry and possibly save someone buying something they don't need. Or if everyone just whants to to be solo that works to, I have have my bike camping gear so I'm good to go!!:thumbup
 
Hi Rod -

I vote for the same two as Greg - Burro or Stage Coach, they both seem fine.

FYI my current plan is to do Carrizo plains w/you guys and the first full day of DV, then I prbly gotta head back the following day...:(

And +1 on Tim's suggestion of some pre-ride planning to plan out the camping and try and share/leverage everyone's gear/skillz. For instance, I'm a pretty good cook/BBQr but don't have a small tent or campstove currently...I'd rather contribute food and my cooking skills and share gear with others then rush out and buy stuff if I don't have to.

I'm thinking of perhaps grilled flank steak or maybe Santa Maria style tri-tip with potato wedges and french bread, and a nice local cab or syrah to wash it down with...:twofinger...or chili :teeth I wonder how my frozen homemade chowder would travel...:laughing


T
 
Nufc9 said:
My vote would be for the stage coach or gregs suggestion. A little night entertainment would be a good thing. Also think a little planing is order as we get closer to the ride date, no point in everyone bringing a stove and gas for camping when one could bring gas and another the burner for example, who's bringing a tent? Willing to share? or are we all on our own, I think with a little planning we could all cut down on the amount of stuff we need to carry and possibly save someone buying something they don't need. Or if everyone just whants to to be solo that works to, I have have my bike camping gear so I'm good to go!!:thumbup
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From their web site it doesn't look like the Stagecoach will have entertainment while we are there (Saturdays only), but I'll call and check.

My tent is a 1-person. Moto camping is necessarily light and rustic, and I wasn't planning to bring a stove. More about that below.

seavoyage said:
Tentative plan

April 14: From WARPED VIII to Death Valley Refuel/Water break at Panamint Springs and Stovepipe Wells Village . Proposed Route: http://g.co/maps/vmdht Contingency stop: Beatty.

Route is good for ADV bikes: Hard slab and n00b skill level off pavement. Ride Sunrise to Sunset.

or

A shorter 284 mile R/T ride (5.25 hrs): Kernville (WARPED VIII) to Olancha Dunes http://www.duneguide.com/sand_dune_g...ncha_dunes.htm (See KTM Trail ride: http://www.photo2pixel.com/OD1.html ) to Paramint Springs for Refuel (Too bad we can't sample the brew and ride back). Route: http://g.co/maps/gxun9
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A bit confused... are you then going to join us in Beatty? If yes, hotel or camping?

Titus58 said:
Hi Rod -

I vote for the same two as Greg - Burro or Stage Coach, they both seem fine.

FYI my current plan is to do Carrizo plains w/you guys and the first full day of DV, then I prbly gotta head back the following day...:(

And +1 on Tim's suggestion of some pre-ride planning to plan out the camping and try and share/leverage everyone's gear/skillz. For instance, I'm a pretty good cook/BBQr but don't have a small tent or campstove currently...I'd rather contribute food and my cooking skills and share gear with others then rush out and buy stuff if I don't have to.

I'm thinking of perhaps grilled flank steak or maybe Santa Maria style tri-tip with potato wedges and french bread, and a nice local cab or syrah to wash it down with...:twofinger...or chili :teeth I wonder how my frozen homemade chowder would travel...:laughing

T
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Again, unless someone is gonna trailer bikes or something it will be pretty tough to bring much stuff to cook with. I have a 2-burner propane camp stove but it wouldn't be much fun to ride with. How are you at cooking on a camp fire? Chili or chowder sounds good to me. :teeth
 
rodr said:
From their web site it doesn't look like the Stagecoach will have entertainment while we are there (Saturdays only), but I'll call and check.
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If you want some good entertainment, walk south down the main street to the saloon on the right. The locals hang out there and you'll find some interesting characters perched at the bar.
 
Griffindor said:
I'm not sure yet, but, if I can, I'll try to do at least what Rod suggested for the 1 day trip to Hwy 25 & cross to Hwy 1 through Fort Hunter Liggett or anywhere. Just want to go back through Hwy 1. I 'll let you know at least 2 days before April 14th.
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Sounds good. Please update when you know.

I've only been down hwy 1 that south once on a group ride to Bixby bridge. Somehow, I really like riding on hwy 1, it's a very nice road. I don't think I've ever been on 25 or visited those towns.

It looks like I'll be home alone for the spring break and wife is giving me permission for a day trip. I'm very excited !
 
I will update as soon as I find out, still got about a month & 1/2. I haven't been on these highways on a bike. Shoot, I've neer been out, pass the Bay Bridge, Carquinez, Richmond, Golden Gate or any bridge at all...
I'm also looking forward to at least do the day trip.
We'll have to also plan our own route from Hwy 25 to Hwy 1 and to get home. I'll look into it also, but I'm kind of poor with this mapping things, so you might want to plan our route.:laughing
But I really don't mind getting lost sometimes, as long as I have gas.:laughing
I don't think Rod has a detailed plan yet of where the meet up is here in Solano Co. & route from here to Hwy. 25. Rod, is that even Hwy 25 that's on your map?:dunno
But again, I'll let you know as soon as I find out when we're going to be back from a family trip.


sv2007 said:
Sounds good. Please update when you know.

I've only been down hwy 1 that south once on a group ride to Bixby bridge. Somehow, I really like riding on hwy 1, it's a very nice road. I don't think I've ever been on 25 or visited those towns.

It looks like I'll be home alone for the spring break and wife is giving me permission for a day trip. I'm very excited !
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Griffindor said:
.., but I'm kind of poor with this mapping things, so you might want to plan our route...
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Don't worry, ever since smart phone + map app, I've not been very majorly lost yet :)
I'm also not afraid of asking for directions after 2 hrs of searching for routes.
 
That's the problem, I don't have a very smart phone. I have a stupid phone:laughing. It's so old :x.

sv2007 said:
Don't worry, ever since smart phone + map app, I've not been very majorly lost yet :)
I'm also not afraid of asking for directions after 2 hrs of searching for routes.
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sv2007 said:
Don't worry, ever since smart phone + map app, I've not been very majorly lost yet :)
I'm also not afraid of asking for directions after 2 hrs of searching for routes.
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Bear in mind that many of these phone-based mapping apps rely on a data connection which will be in short supply for many of the remote roads covered on this trip.
 
John, I'll bring my old faithful Garmin GPS, just to make sure.:thumbup

sv2007, I guess you will be cutting through Hwy 17, coming from Hwy 1, right? I'm trying to plan my trip back with you & to that point where I'll be a solo rider.
uhmmm.... ' hope I will be able to join , even for just a day. Of course, better if I could go for the whole adventure on this Rods' DV trip & back. Except for the dirt road parts.

Rod, let me know if there's a pre-ride meet for this.
 
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