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2011 Cadillac CTS-V Stolen 8.5.26

I'm not sure why you are getting all defensive or what you are asking. Many cops make more in ot than their base salary. Some sf cops make over 500 k a year but working ot.

It has nothing to do with a pension, that is a different thing. But to compare them to teachers salary wise is laughable.
I'm not sure why you are getting all defensive or what you are asking. Many cops make more in ot than their base salary. Some sf cops make over 500 k a year but working ot.

It has nothing to do with a pension, that is a different thing. But to compare them to teachers salary wise is laughable.
That's inquisitive, not defensive.- understand the difference? I am asking what OT is there in a Pension, I had never heard of that.
 
I'm not sure why you are getting all defensive or what you are asking. Many cops make more in ot than their base salary. Some sf cops make over 500 k a year but working ot.

It has nothing to do with a pension, that is a different thing. But to compare them to teachers salary wise is laughable.
Data from SF:

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That's inquisitive, not defensive.- understand the difference? I am asking what OT is there in a Pension, I had never heard of that.
And I want at all linking the two. Someone said don't forget the pension, and I said and ot. And somehow you linked the two
 
How did the people in charge of the system prohibit the Oakland PD to go check out a vehicle?!?

I don't think the people in charge of any city / system are literally prohibiting that the Police Dept literally go and check out a vehicle / etc/ crime ring as littlebeast point out.

That said... I think any police station gets calls "come here, I see a stolen vehicle", all the time, so... maybe they'll secretly admit "we don't believe those calls". I guess that'd be wrong in many cases.
I would speculate that those calls may get treated as an "abandon vehicle" call, turned over to the Community Service Officer or Parking Enforcement and not acted on for 72 hours.
Guess this would also depend on the city and it's street parking regulations for any given street. For most residential streets vehicles parked on a street longer than 72 hours are subject to removal per California Vehicle Code 22651(k) and a city's municipal code if the PD is called. Not sure what the time frame is once the vehicle is "tagged" and then checked again, then how long before it's removed?
 
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I think the pay is really not the issue. It is the people in charge of the system that are.
I am sure the officers would love to crack some thieves heads and shut the shit show down but if their bosses are we can't and the politicians say don't they are pretty helpless overall.

Two decades ago, I rode with a buddy whose mom was the police chief for Oakland. He was an ex Ranger, shot in Bosnia a few times, and Iraq vet. Cool AF guy. He said the city council was the problem, even back then...and she was impacted from having the effect she wanted on crime.
 
Man, I hate it when elected local city councils don't allow police forces to be police FORCES.

The Oakland police department’s history of misconduct — particularly involving African-Americans — has made it the subject of federal oversight for 13 years. Wednesday, Stanford researchers released the results of a two-year-long study into the department, confirming that Oakland officers exhibit significant racial biases in their day-to-day work. Special correspondent Jackie Judd reports.

 
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Ya don't say......

As of February 28, 2026, the racial/ethnic makeup of Oakland Police Department (OPD) sworn staff was approximately:

Race/EthnicityPercentage
Hispanic or Latino29.9%
White23.7%
Asian (includes Filipino)21.5%
Black or African American20.2%
Other (includes Native American and Undeclared)4.7%
 
Sure.



OAKLAND, Calif. - Black police officers in Oakland are 37% more likely to have allegations against them sustained, according to the findings of independent consultants -- a result that the department acknowledged is "unacceptable."

But ya know, maybe it’s actually not just about race. Maybe it’s racism mixed with a shitty good old boys system. One so bad the feds took an interest

In addition, the majority of officers interviewed said they feel that there is a popularity contest at play in deciding who gets punished and who does not.

Specifically, officers told the consultants that "power and friendships," even more than race, play key roles in determining who gets favored, or who is perceived to be favored.
 
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Just and fyi... Oakland's crime incident data for past week. There were 276 incidents last week, an average of 39.4 incidents per day.
Menlo Park doesn't provide their info to Crime Mapping.
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Oakland Incidents

Oakland probably has only ancillary information info about the Caddy so it's not included. :dunno
 
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Don't forget pensions, plenty get a 6 figure pension after 30 years.
Get? It's a contribution from the employee matched by the pension provider. Not a gold watch!
Teachers end up coaching and tutoring and supervising. I added $15K in 2021 just being the mask police at games. "Admin designee" AKA party pooper.
I'm not sure why you are getting all defensive or what you are asking. Many cops make more in ot than their base salary. Some sf cops make over 500 k a year but working ot.

It has nothing to do with a pension, that is a different thing. But to compare them to teachers salary wise is laughable.
Teacher and PD starting salaries are the same in my city. Then the steps are similar. PD can tap out earlier, and need to. They are all wrecked from lugging the belt in and out of the car, unless they promote up to take it off. The OT is due to crazy understaffing because most of the candidates wash out and so few really talented people work for so little with such shit hours and demands. 40% of SDPD is former military and they are kinds pre-trained. Check out the transparent California education salaries, they are eye-popping.
 
My mom grew up in Oakland
I been going there to visit family for most of my life.
Sad to see all the changes…..
I’m old so I remember better times that’s for sure.
Geez
PaulR
 
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