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62-66 Plymouth Valiant

I didn't want to say anything cuz the old "aint got nothing nice to say..."
 
MrIncredible said:
I think your confusing the Valiant with some sort of automobile.

You're buying a hobby. Anything you don't know about the car you will be forced to learn.

Just listening to you I know you've never owned anything that old-if you let it sit for a week between street sweepings, it won't start. Old cars don't sit well.

Heat won't go where you want it (if it ever heats up), power nothing, anemic engine, half the gears your used to, brakes that hate SF hills, everything inside will rattle, forever.

I'd do it.
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Awesome post!
 
You're not making a forever decision. If you want one, buy it. If you don't like it, sell it. There are always people looking for those cars.
 
Skip said:
You're not making a forever decision. If you want one, buy it. If you don't like it, sell it. There are always people looking for those cars.
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Bunch of sickos need to start a group or something. Someday there is going to be a thread about some guy wanting a buy a vintage Aztec....shudder...
 
I've owned or driven twenty or thirty or forty classics. I prefer my Ford Ranger, my Focus, fuck, any modern or semi modern car. The old cars had drum brakes that wear out quickly and are a PITA to work on, crappy suspension, bench seats, shitty seat belts, no air bags, and parts impossible to find. New cars rock.
 
afm199 said:
I've owned or driven twenty or thirty or forty classics. I prefer my Ford Ranger, my Focus, fuck, any modern or semi modern car. The old cars had drum brakes that wear out quickly and are a PITA to work on, crappy suspension, bench seats, shitty seat belts, no air bags, and parts impossible to find. New cars rock.
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I think about this every time I get the notion to buy another Datsun 510 or 240z (I loved those back in the day and even then those were older cars).
 
Sharky said:
I think about this every time I get the notion to buy another Datsun 510 or 240z (I loved those back in the day and even then those were older cars).
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Word. When I came to the Bay Area in 73 or so, I had a Datsun 410. It was a neat car in some way, fun to drive and easy to work on. However I'd never give up a modern car to own one again. :laughing
 
My buddy builds and races 510s. I think slam an engine out and back in, in q couple hours. Datsuns are very cool cars. A Z with a small block is awesome too.
 
corndog67 said:
My buddy builds and races 510s. I think slam an engine out and back in, in q couple hours. Datsuns are very cool cars. A Z with a small block is awesome too.
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I loved the 510 and would love to own one if I had a pit crew.
 
corndog67 said:
My buddy builds and races 510s. I think slam an engine out and back in, in q couple hours. Datsuns are very cool cars. A Z with a small block is awesome too.
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Motor swaps in 510s are nothing but a couple of hour affair (I agree). My buddy's family ran ITC back in the day and between the race car and all of our various 510s (my group of friends had at least four at any given time and would hold impromptu rallies all the time) we got plenty of time working on them. While working on them is easy (have a 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, 15mm and 17mm sockets/wrenches) they can't hold a candle to a modern, sealed cabin, AC that works and compliance/performance ride of today's cars.

My 72' 2 door had dual 44's, you couldn't hardly think when cruising on the freeway. The noise that car made was glorious at full sing, but as an everyday driver, I'm too old for that stuff.

I do miss that bucket of bolts. Last I heard, the knob I sold it to was seen revving the motor at a stop to 8,000rpm (floating the valves) in an effort to show off to some ladies. I'm pretty sure that despite the anvil like reliability of that built L20, that car has long since gone to scrap.
 
corndog67 said:
My buddy builds and races 510s. I think slam an engine out and back in, in q couple hours. Datsuns are very cool cars. A Z with a small block is awesome too.
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LS motored Zs are pretty cool, here's one I saw a few years back

[youtube]573xLfNmLeA[/youtube]
 
Sharky said:
Motor swaps in 510s are nothing but a couple of hour affair (I agree). My buddy's family ran ITC back in the day and between the race car and all of our various 510s (my group of friends had at least four at any given time and would hold impromptu rallies all the time) we got plenty of time working on them. While working on them is easy (have a 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, 15mm and 17mm sockets/wrenches) they can't hold a candle to a modern, sealed cabin, AC that works and compliance/performance ride of today's cars.

My 72' 2 door had dual 44's, you couldn't hardly think when cruising on the freeway. The noise that car made was glorious at full sing, but as an everyday driver, I'm too old for that stuff.

I do miss that bucket of bolts. Last I heard, the knob I sold it to was seen revving the motor at a stop to 8,000rpm (floating the valves) in an effort to show off to some ladies. I'm pretty sure that despite the anvil like reliability of that built L20, that car has long since gone to scrap.
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Junkie said:
LS motored Zs are pretty cool, here's one I saw a few years back

[youtube]573xLfNmLeA[/youtube]
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Last I heard, he was running 45 DCOE Webers, before that, twin 50mm Solex Mikunis, more or less the same. Pete Brock told him his BRE Replica was pretty close. One of my old coworkers, father, was a founder of Interpart, and his green 510 was on the back cover of one of those how to build a 510 manuals. Partners with Peter Brock. They're pretty serious about their toys, they spend a lot of time and money on them. About the same as a cocaine habit, from my estimation.
 
corndog67 said:
Last I heard, he was running 45 DCOE Webers, before that, twin 50mm Solex Mikunis, more or less the same. Pete Brock told him his BRE Replica was pretty close. One of my old coworkers, father, was a founder of Interpart, and his green 510 was on the back cover of one of those how to build a 510 manuals. Partners with Peter Brock. They're pretty serious about their toys, they spend a lot of time and money on them. About the same as a cocaine habit, from my estimation.
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The BRE cars were the thing our teenage wet dreams were made of back then. That and we were posers for the Newman racing team. :laughing

Makes me wonder what happened to a sick box flared 510 my friend Bobby sold to Darius (of v8 240 fame) in the early 90's I think. That car had all kinds of trick parts, just needed to be put together correctly. If I recall correctly, he had it over at Rebello to get sorted, but I never saw what happened to it after that.
 
From my experience, and I did this, a lot of hotrod cars and bikes get to the parts gathering stage, or initial assembly stage, and people either start burning out, or get tired of the money outlay, or just don't want to lay under a car anymore , in the driveway or garage when its 30 degrees at 3 in the morning. I've seen plenty of cars sold, incomplete, lots of nice, expensive stuff on them, because people got tired of fucking with them.
 
Valiant can't be that bad... Circle Jerks referenced one at :38 :teeth

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