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All the sh!t talk about Harley Davidison
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bluenoser
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For me the motor technology is... lacking. Firing on every compression stroke, which I'm sure contributes to the raspy note that the HD owners all seem to think sounds cool blasted through a megaphone at 1 in the morning. 
Why can't they get their shit together with their Vees, to be more in-line with the likes of Ducati or Aprilia (or, well, basically anybody else who makes a twin), to make their motor sound pleasant and melodic, with or without aftermarket accruements.
Plus the 45deg V is not visually appealing to me (at least, not on the newer HDs, with the cylinder heads crammed together and the air filter et.al. spilling out the sides).
Why can't they get their shit together with their Vees, to be more in-line with the likes of Ducati or Aprilia (or, well, basically anybody else who makes a twin), to make their motor sound pleasant and melodic, with or without aftermarket accruements.Plus the 45deg V is not visually appealing to me (at least, not on the newer HDs, with the cylinder heads crammed together and the air filter et.al. spilling out the sides).
Brown81
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I always wondered what would happen if Pirates get in a fight with power rangers. My curiosity has been satisfied.
For me the motor technology is... lacking. Firing on every compression stroke, which I'm sure contributes to the raspy note that the HD owners all seem to think sounds cool blasted through a megaphone at 1 in the morning.
Plus the 45deg V is not visually appealing to me (at least, not on the newer HDs, with the cylinder heads crammed together and the air filter et.al. spilling out the sides).
For the bazillionth time, HD's mantra is if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The engine sells so there's no reason to invest the money to change anything. :|
Jack the Smack
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For me the motor technology is... lacking. Firing on every compression stroke, which I'm sure contributes to the raspy note that the HD owners all seem to think sounds cool blasted through a megaphone at 1 in the morning.
Plus the 45deg V is not visually appealing to me (at least, not on the newer HDs, with the cylinder heads crammed together and the air filter et.al. spilling out the sides).
Because the sound sells HD. They do it because of their customer base, not because they are incompetent. In fact, I'm sure a lot of R&D is put into making the technology as new as possible while still retaining the same noise.
It is because the pipes have to compete with the asshatery of the owner. Wish I had my video camera to film last night's douchery for all the HD lovers on this thread - Swabbies by the river - 60year old dood roaming around parking lot on his street glide with his fooking CD player blaring some shit-ass-rap/rock so loud even the drunkards were making comments to shut it down. What a joke..... seriously :|
"They do it because of their customer base, not because they are incompetent."
HD leads the world in fringe design and their conchs are also pretty trick. They could not build a modern liquid cooled motor so they had Porsche design the Vrod motor, pathetic lump that it is.
HD leads the world in fringe design and their conchs are also pretty trick. They could not build a modern liquid cooled motor so they had Porsche design the Vrod motor, pathetic lump that it is.
Just to add some material to this discussion. I ran in to three harley guys while caging today. They fit the stereotype so perfectly it was comical. Seriously I was laughing at them at one of the lights. I was seating at one of the light when these three dudes filtered to the front, two were riding two up. Immediately they started to rev the engines. Then even before light turned green they took off, couple hundred feet later one of them pulled to the side of the road. I assume it was a mechanical issue because he later caught up. At the second light they did the same thing! A that point I was just laughing and telling them how lame they looked. Not sure they heard me above the reving of the engine. It was like a free entertainment, and I have to say brightened my mood after dealing with rolling road blocks, and 5 mile traffic jam on 101 because people were reading the fucking signs on the side of the road. 
High-Side
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Just to add some material to this discussion. I ran in to three harley guys while caging today. They fit the stereotype so perfectly it was comical. Seriously I was laughing at them at one of the lights. I was seating at one of the light when these three dudes filtered to the front, two were riding two up. Immediately they started to rev the engines. Then even before light turned green they took off, couple hundred feet later one of them pulled to the side of the road. I assume it was a mechanical issue because he later caught up. At the second light they did the same thing! A that point I was just laughing and telling them how lame they looked. Not sure they heard me above the reving of the engine. It was like a free entertainment, and I have to say brightened my mood after dealing with rolling road blocks, and 5 mile traffic jam on 101 because people were reading the fucking signs on the side of the road.
Wow - the exact same thing happened to me today except they were on sport bikes.
buellistic
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It's odd, but I have to honestly say (as a sportbiker) that HDs, as loud as they can sometimes be, don't bother me as often as people who complain about them endlessly...
I just kind of look at them like rolling nostalgia, as sportbikes are rolling computers...
I just kind of look at them like rolling nostalgia, as sportbikes are rolling computers...
Jack the Smack
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Funny thing I learned today, Harley Davidson employs 9,700 people. Honda employs 27,000 people in the United States. So Honda could be considered a more American brand to buy than Harley due to it's support of America and its economy.
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How many in the US work on motorcycles?
russ69
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That doesn't sound right unless that includes the car business. Do you have a source for this? I'm just guessing but from what I see, Honda and Harley are pretty close in size (motorcycle side) but I'm just guessing.
Thanx, Russ
Brown81
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I agree. I am far more irritated by people complaining about Harley Davidsons than I will ever be by the bikes themselves.
I'd estimate that 99% of the people who hate them have never really ridden one.
Jack the Smack
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Didn't think about that, but that's just splitting hairs.
madsen203
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I agree. I am far more irritated by people complaining about Harley Davidsons than I will ever be by the bikes themselves.
I'd estimate that 99% of the people who hate them have never really ridden one.
(The reason I hate them) is because they are no better than a convertible. The MAIN reason I hate them is the squid/poser/wannabe intentions that reside beneath the thin layer of frazzled leather vests.
It has nothing to do with the bikes, but rather the people are douchyyy...
The true riders of HD are interesting people by far though. They will always have a better story (other than crashing) than someone with a sport bike.
I also think if you are touring, that a Kawa or BMW are prime compared to that of HD. But then again, it's personal preference at that point.
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I crack up reading all the shit talk knowing that not one of the perpetrators would have the balls to say something to my face about my HD.
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