All the sh!t talk about Harley Davidison

[Moto4Fun]

aren't propellers made to push air through?

NO! They are made to PULL air through!

 

[sjmike]

are we talking push or pull plane engines here???

 

[ST Guy]

I have a hard time believing this. Not that I've run any numbers or FEA, but I would be curious what you're basing the assertion on. It's like claiming a propeller is solid at speed, when it's clearly not. Air has no problem moving through propellers that turn quite a bit faster than road wheels.

 

[ST Guy]

aren't propellers made to push air through?

True, that. But consider that props are also feathered so that they don't push/pull any air and they still don't suddenly act like solid disks.

Solid disks suck from every standpoint unless fashion is top priority.

 

[LongGoneJohn]

True, that. But consider that props are also feathered so that they don't push/pull any air and they still don't suddenly act like solid disks.

Solid disks suck from every standpoint unless fashion is top priority.

They may suck from "every standpoint" except for the fact that the way in which the bike was developed to be ridden, does not suffer from the "solid disks" and thus, they can have the benefit of FASHION without any noticable decrease in performance.

It's like saying floorboards suck because they grind before you can get any real lean angle on whatever Harley... when in reality, the Harley wasn't built to be carving through corners at 80mph, so they put floorboards on them to increase *COMFORT* and keep the bike handling well enough within its design.

From a real life perspective, I can ride my Harley at a pace fast enough to scare me and fast enough to not be the slowest at any given group ride -- but I don't liek doing that, because I didn't BUY a HArley in the first place for that TYPE of riding. I ride the Harley to relax, not to work.

 

[AOW]

They may suck from "every standpoint" except for the fact that the way in which the bike was developed to be ridden, does not suffer from the "solid disks" and thus, they can have the benefit of FASHION without any noticable decrease in performance..

you're giving HD way toooooo much credit here. They put solids on the first years of VRODs for the looks. After MANY complaints (although I'm sure it was the accidents and subsequent lawsuits), about high speed wobble, they ceased that practice. They didn't take into consideration that the folks that would purchase the VROD would actually "RIDE" it to the limits of the Porsche engine.
Not all Harleys are designed for the same slow and steady pace as your air cooled HD.

 

[MCSFTGUY]

From a real life perspective, I can ride my Harley at a pace fast enough to scare me and fast enough to not be the slowest at any given group ride -- but I don't liek doing that, because I didn't BUY a HArley in the first place for that TYPE of riding. I ride the Harley to relax, not to work.

AMEN to this

Or there is another reason to buy a Harley.... it is the only bike big enough so that I don't look like a circus bear riding around on it. And since I am the size of a circus bear, it is the only bike big enough where I am semi-comfortable and don't have to bend in some strange position to reach all of the pedals.

I looked at a Honda ST1300 for my commute bike a year or two back... I am old, I have a steel knee and the other one is not far behind.... Just didn't work... and as a famous Bay Area LEO once said..." A man has got to know his limitation." I would have killed myself on that thing in about 2 months trying to see how fast and hard I could ride it.

 

[brichter]

you're giving HD way toooooo much credit here. They put solids on the first years of VRODs for the looks. After MANY complaints (although I'm sure it was the accidents and subsequent lawsuits), about high speed wobble, they ceased that practice. They didn't take into consideration that the folks that would purchase the VROD would actually "RIDE" it to the limits of the Porsche engine.
Not all Harleys are designed for the same slow and steady pace as your air cooled HD.

I'd like to see the proof that solid disc wheels were the cause of high speed wobble. Any links to studies or NHTSA docs will be fine...