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Holeshot said:
To clarify: Less mid corner speed and quicker steering/ pointing of the Kart allowed me to carry momentum down the straight away as opposed to high mid corner speed and thus, slower steering/ pointing of the Kart...which forced a later application of full throttle. In and out of the corner as quickly can be done. That means a large direction change in a short distance, meaning more application of brakes, slower mid corner and quicker steer phase, to allow for an earlier application of full throttle (not just throttle period).
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...and you carry this same line of thinking into the two-wheel variety of racing? Sorry for more questions, but anytime guys like you are sharing info, I am all ears.
 
Actually, I brought it from my 2 wheel experience over to the Karting...The karting was just easier to see it work in comparison to my competition.

One funny thing that Kamal (Data Aquistion) said to me when we were doing a weekend at Sears Point. He said "the feeling of speed in the corners is what riders/ drivers want, but that's not the fast way around the track according to the data". What he meant was, high corner speed feels fast, but it's not. Getting the vehicle in, slowed, pointed and then accelerate IS the quickest way...but the mid corner speed is so much lower that this actually "feels" slow...

Hope that helps a bit more.
 
BTW, everyone tends to do it a little different...this is simply my method/ theory on what I understand and use.
 
Holeshot said:
Getting the vehicle in, slowed, pointed and then accelerate IS the quickest way...but the mid corner speed is so much lower that this actually "feels" slow...
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As long your bike has enough power to do it that way.
 
When I rode with Josh Hayes last year I was surprised that he was going slower than me at the apex even though he was on his wife's R6, and while I was running wide leaned over on the edge of the track trying to gather things up he was upright and gone. I had been so busy trying to look like a GP star that I was going slower than an MSF newbie. :laughing
 
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Holeshot said:
BTW, everyone tends to do it a little different...this is simply my method/ theory on what I understand and use.
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Yeah, he knows the fast in-n-out method as well, but he usually blows the motor before the race is over...
 
Burning1 said:
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the fastest guys tend to wear out the edges of their tires. :dunno
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The fast guy I work for brings in tires that are completely evenly worn and seldom with any tear.
 
Holeshot said:
To clarify: Less mid corner speed and quicker steering/ pointing of the Kart allowed me to carry momentum down the straight away as opposed to high mid corner speed and thus, slower steering/ pointing of the Kart...which forced a later application of full throttle. In and out of the corner as quickly can be done. That means a large direction change in a short distance, meaning more application of brakes, slower mid corner and quicker steer phase, to allow for an earlier application of full throttle (not just throttle period).[/QUOTE

Called "squaring off the corner" popularized back in the 70's. :shocker
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joespeedfast said:
Holeshot said:
To clarify: Less mid corner speed and quicker steering/ pointing of the Kart allowed me to carry momentum down the straight away as opposed to high mid corner speed and thus, slower steering/ pointing of the Kart...which forced a later application of full throttle. In and out of the corner as quickly can be done. That means a large direction change in a short distance, meaning more application of brakes, slower mid corner and quicker steer phase, to allow for an earlier application of full throttle (not just throttle period).
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Called "squaring off the corner" popularized back in the 70's. :shocker
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Watching Moto2 race last weekend those guys are either way behind or way ahead :)
 
TWF said:
Watching Moto2 race last weekend those guys are either way behind or way ahead :)
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Don't mind the track they're on has plenty of high speed corners. Point and shoot don't work so well in a long corner Zoran...
 
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