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buying your first bike: POS vs pretty and new

Get a decent bike. One with not too many miles and not too much beatings to it. Go to, say, Riderschoice in Milpitas/Sunnyvale, and sit on different bikes to see which one fits with you and your size. Thats exactly what I did when I was shopping for a bike for my gf.

Also, I'd consider the ninja 250. You'd probably be able to find one around $2K.
 
On a limited budget, you can always go for the GS500. Good bang for the buck, you get a 500 twin, easy to work on, dirt cheap to insure, and it's nekkid so no biggie if you drop it at a stoplight.
 
i learned on a clean, mint condition 91 yamaha fzr600 for 1400. best motorcycle purchase ever made. moved up to 04 600rr a year later. now i'm getting back on a 03 svs.
 
onlytb4ever said:
you have a less likely chance of dropping a cruiser?

Those cruiser types are just like the ones you will use when you take (or have taken) the Motorcycle Safety Class. You sit more upright with the cruiser types and most newbies feel more comfortable that way at first.
 
Cammie said:
I don't understand this mindset coming from people who don't even know how to ride. I understand having a preference. But, why not learn to ride on a bike that's going to optimize your learning curve?

Just goes to show how thoroughly propagandized the whole thing has become. If a person is interested in riding, they'll ride just about anything. If it's a fashion statement, then it's about the right accessories.
 
get a dual sport. You can drop it all day long, they have a couple with fairly low seat heights. You can learn to ride offroad which will dramatically improve your on road riding, and lastly you are one step closer to Supermoto, which is a very cheap way to look cool on a motorcycle if thats your thing hahaha.
 
Accept that you will drop it no matter how hard you try not to.

And get something that's super reliable and holds it's resale value like a 250 Ninja or a GS500.
 
You can find a nice condition, late model, ninja 250 for around around 1800$, you just have to look for them...craigslist, local papers, etc, etc. They're out there...i bought mine in 03 or 04, it was an 01 model with 12k on it, for $1800...totally pristine, sat in a garage for 8 months for a girl who's parents got it for her, but she was more interested in posing than actually riding. Took the MSF course and never wanted to ride again...:laughing
 
late model kawi ninja 250 for $2k ftw; quality leathers, boots, & helmet with the rest of your $$$. Also don't forget about insurance which won't be cheap if you're a youngin.
 
dang... how many new bike threads did you just start? :laughing

if the bike is so ugly it makes you not want to ride it, dont get it. otherwise, ugly bikes -- you just grow to like.
 
I started on an '82 Suzuki GN 250, a small UJM that was ratty looking but ran. I traded a mountain bike for it, plus a 100 bucks cash. I spent an afternoon learning how to ride it, then proceeded to spend the next couple months taking it apart every weekend and going through it as much as I was able to. I repainted the tank and side-covers, polished off as much rust as possible, and really turned it around into a nice, clean, used motorcycle. I never dropped it, or crashed it (I was saving up for larger and more expensive motorcycles to do that with), and eventually I stepped up to a Suzuki Savage, a 650 single. Man, that thing felt like it had a ton of horsepower on it the first time I roared onto the freeway with it. I ended up taking the MSF course about two years later, to knock down the insurance costs on my 750 (V4 baby!), and while it might not have been the best, newbie friendly, way to start off on bikes, I'm glad I did it, and I would do it all over again. No matter what I'm riding, I think about different bikes all the time, and when you're just starting off, I think it best to learn how to be as defensive as you can. An underpowered and slow machine can really give you time to think about what's going on around you, and how you're going to avoid all kinds of stuff coming at you from every direction. Ninja 250? Good. 500? Good.

It doesn't matter what your style is, because at the end of the ride, you want to make sure you're going to get there in one piece. If you buy a POS, you're probably going to worry about being stranded somewhere, at some point, and if you get something just a little nicer, that might happen, too. I think you should get the best thing you can afford in your budget, which is probably a well maintained 250, of any ilk, and when you're confortable and confident in your abilities you'll find the next bike. It's always about the next bike. You'll never be 100% satisfied with what you've got, and if you are, say hello to Elvis for me.
 
+1 on the gs500,I had a nighthawk 250that was traded to me and the I gave it to my brother. The brakes suck ass on that bike.the bike only had 3k on it. I took it on trips to sev elev,and little random stuff a few time before I gave it to my brother. The one trip I took up 9 was a nightmare of brake fade and lockup. Get the gs or a ex 250,as those bikes are actually capable of being ridden fast.
 
I brought an experienced friend and got a beater '83 Nighthawk 650 my first bike--it was under a grand, but had been rehabbed and well maintained by its previous owner. I loved that thing, learned how to do some basic maintenance, and didn't get too bummed on the occasions I did drop it. A Ninja 250 or a GS500 would have been similar, probably lighter and more nimble for daily traffic, but I had already busted my budget on gear.

I remember the first time I got that sucker up to 80 on the back roads--it was exhilarating!

I have a newer Nighthawk now, as well as a fancier bike. I thought I'd sell the 750 Nighthawk when I got the VFR, but it's really nice to have a bike that:
I'm not afraid to learn to work on. When I do break something, I can find parts cheap, so I'm not so afraid of the learning curve.
I feel better riding around town on--in traffic, parking in the bad part of town, in the rain. I ride for basic transportation, and
The nicer, newer bike is a pleasure to ride, but not the low-worry workhorse that the Nighthawk is.
I don't add the fear of expensive repairs and too-much-for-me power when riding the low-end bike. I think my learning curve was faster as a result--a small bike helps with that, too.

So don't overestimate pretty in favor of useful, in other words.
 
Thinking of selling my 99 EX500 with 15k miles. It's in between your range of POS and New bike budget.


Click thumbnail for larger pic.

It's currently a daily, and spends most of its life outside. Shiny ORIGINAL PAINT.

CLEAN TITLE. (not salvaged, cleared, or rebuilt)

PM me if interested.

Or splaturn(at)gmail. com


Bike is in Stockton. Don't have a truck right now, but can drop it off if you're purchasing if i can arrange a ride back.
 
I think she confuses the term 'crusier' with a 'standard'. Get a cheap used 250...ride for awhile, if you don't drop it....you'll get your money back. If you do drop it, its only gonna cost u so much.

Bottom line: You're pretty much broke, working part time, and a full time student.

BEGGARS CAN'T BE CHOOSERS
 
I bought a 99 Ex500 last month and its a great beginners bike. I paid a POS price, but runs and looks like a champ with only 4000 miles on it. Guy that sold it to me was just awesome. I think this bike is way easier to control that the ones they had at the MSF class.
 
For your budget, only 2 bikes come to minde (around $1500)

Suzuki GS500
Yamaha SecaII
 
First bike = learning experience. If you're obsessing about what it looks like, you're probably not in it for the riding and wrenching. Re-read Liam's post. If you're not an expert mechanic, buy something that has at least a 90% chance of bringing you back from any given local ride.
 
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