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Chrysler is now Stellantis

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I likely had the same thought run through my mind reading the above then remembered the tight polyass enforcement here.

Let me be vague:
Save our jobs but fuck yours!
 
EV mandates have played hell with product design and profit margins (overall) when combined with .gov emissions standards. EV's are the big problem for auto industry net margins, however. I believe Stelantis may be more exposed her than earlier adapting firms...and now, the expectation is shifting back to ICE/ Hybrid units.
 
Reli said:
Never been impressed by Chrysler products, aside from a few Vipers and Cummins trucks.
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Cummins is an engine manufacturer. They don't build any trucks. Also, the ISB is not a light-duty truck engine and Ram trucks are not heavy-duty trucks regardless of what your redneck friends/family think. The low-load and duty cycle of the light duty configuration has always been a bad combination for the ISB which makes that engine far more prone to EGR and turbo issues/failures as well as fueling and injector problems. People spend $10,000+ over the cost of the gasoline engine options just because they want 18-20 MPG in a 3/4 or 1-ton truck without taking into consideration that the ISB was built for medium and even some heavy-duty applications and has no business in class three or lower trucks not to mention that the maintenance costs are double those of the gasoline-powered varieties.
 
Kornholio said:
Cummins is an engine manufacturer. They don't build any trucks. Also, the ISB is not a light-duty truck engine and Ram trucks are not heavy-duty trucks regardless of what your redneck friends/family think. The low-load and duty cycle of the light duty configuration has always been a bad combination for the ISB which makes that engine far more prone to EGR and turbo issues/failures as well as fueling and injector problems. People spend $10,000+ over the cost of the gasoline engine options just because they want 18-20 MPG in a 3/4 or 1-ton truck without taking into consideration that the ISB was built for medium and even some heavy-duty applications and has no business in class three or lower trucks not to mention that the maintenance costs are double those of the gasoline-powered varieties.
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Oh I know, I just called them Cummins trucks to distinguish them from the other Rams (which I've never liked).
If someone actually has some serious stuff to tow, a Cummins motor can be a good option. But you're right, most people are kidding themselves.
 
Yeah it's pretty much the case with any of the 3/4 and 1-ton diesel trucks. The vast majority of the people that buy them don't need what they're actually capable of and hate them due to the cost of maintenance...or they just never do the maintenance they're supposed to do and the engine ends up having a ton of problems. It's really way too much engine for what that class of truck needs. The Powerstrokes are no different and Duramax's are just garbage in the first place so... :laughing
 
I don't have any complaints on standard Ram 1 ton maintenance. FWIW, our Ram fleet trucks are top of the quality ladder, so long as they don't have they 5.7L. We got stung with the camshaft / lifter issue on several 2012 units. GM has been solid. Ford's have been significantly problematic/ lower quality. I used to be a Ford die hard, but not anymore. The aluminum bed is attractive in snow/ salt country and despite my quality concerns, we're trying 2 of them to flesh out longevity of the body. I'm not too optimistic, but my guys talked me into the trial.
 
You don't have any issues with your Ram because you likely tow with it and pull a load that's proper for the truck's class. Again, low load/low duty cycle use is an absolute killer for a modern diesel engine but no dealer in the country is going to tell a customer that. I'm very curious about what on the Powerstroke was problematic for you and which version you had. Out of all the light and medium duty trucks in our fleet of just shy of 1,000 units, the Fords are by far the longest lasting and least problematic. We've never had any issues with the aluminum parts either and quite frankly, Ram uses aluminum parts in their body construction as well. Hell, even GM has aluminum parts on their bodies, too. I've never had any issues across the fleet with body parts that weren't caused by NAF collisions or dumbass operators making mistakes.
 
Holeshot said:
EV mandates have played hell with product design and profit margins (overall) when combined with .gov emissions standards. EV's are the big problem for auto industry net margins, however. I believe Stelantis may be more exposed her than earlier adapting firms...and now, the expectation is shifting back to ICE/ Hybrid units.
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I'm no fan of EV mandates or too many subsidies, but I don't think we have EV mandates, yet. I also think EV mandates will never happen.

The federal EV tax credit is restricted by a large % made in USA, income limits and there is a purchase price limit, so I think it's very limited.


Gasoline car sales have fallen down 3 million cars per year in the US, partially due to EV sales, but I think the overall car market is down because of high car prices and high interest rates.



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When the new EV automakers were still fresh people would say "They can do low volume, but just wait to see them do high volume". Now the legacy automakers are getting schooled on how to make cars at a profit.
 
CA is requiring 100% of all new vehicles sold in the state to be ZEVs by 2035. Is that not a mandate?
 
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