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Colorful CHP's

berth said:
This doesn't really bother me, especially if they're going after the lunatics on the road.

There's value to identifiable CHP as they act as a reminder and a deterrent just by their presence.

At the same time, for those on the lookout for them, hiding in plain sight has advantages.

In my travels around here, I see very little speed enforcement. I'm doing 80 (along with most others), and still get my doors blown off by others. I don't do 80 to do 80 per se, but just more to keep with the flow (no really!). So it honestly wouldn't bother me that much to tone down overall traffic velocity.
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Ah, socal...in SD judges aren't even going for convictions below 86mph because the docket is full of 100+ citations the CHP has dead to rights. Creates quite the culture of speeding, and scads of high hp sedans to facilitate. Folks using the freeways as GTA-style racetracks is accurate, and it's random. Less likely during the morning commute though, people need time for their morning beers.

There always exists a gap between 80+ and honest abes doing close to the limit. That's where I linger on the bike and in the car, looking for nutters weaving their way through abes to violate the sanctity of my middle ground. There are parts of OC and LA where space never allows any cushion and you have to place a lot of trust in other drivers. We have our primary car on auto pay for tolls and take them as needed to mitigate the seventh fucking circle that is traffic.

The enforcement is welcome. They are targeting the worst of the worst. This will confound the apps that track LE locations, at least for a while.
 
nakedape said:
Ah, socal...in SD judges aren't even going for convictions below 86mph because the docket is full of 100+ citations the CHP has dead to rights.
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I remember, back when I used to commute from South OC to North SD.

I saw a article or something on enforcement.

Heading south in the morning, where the 73 merges into the 5, it was not uncommon to see up to 5 cruisers laying in wait.

But article was talking about the wide open section between Capistrano and Oceanside.

"They issue 3000 citations a year in that section!"

3000! Boy, sounds like a lot!

But that's 10 per day.

"Umm..."

Not a lot of deterrent there, considering the traffic flow.

Just more a note to not stand out with the hammer down (unlike the 15, where the hammer isn't down, it's flat out stuck).

Moto related, my friend and I were coming back up from SD once, and we were at the immigration checkpoint north of Pendleton.

And they had us all stopped for some reason.

My friend said "Race to the next car!"

And when the flag dropped, off we went, 4 lanes of empty I-5 concrete in front of us.

A few seconds after we caught up to traffic and slowed down, another car raced up to meet us.

He was trying to catch us.
 
I'm out of the speed business, but there are rumors floating the CHP has approached the legislature about doubling fines and suspension periods. Same with arsonists & CALFIRE. Going to be a hard sell for both in our speed loving, libtard state.
 
Doesn't Oregon have stealth highway patrol cars too?
 
I, Mr. Jack McFuddyDuddy, don't have a problem with double fines/suspension for > 100MPH.

70 in a 65? Yea, no. But that's not what The Problem is.
 
I remember when the Mini and Range Rover came out with the white roofs. See that white roof in the mirror and take your foot or hand off the throttle and find out it wasn't CHP. Grrrr.
 
Had the stealth units in WA for yonks.
Thought it was well integrated since PD got the SWAT tanks.
 
not the first time the CHP has tried being sneaky

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There's about 100 of those "specially marked patrol vehicles," With around 108 field offices, that makes for around 1 per office. They'll be extremely rare to see in the wild.
 
I was curious how rare and dug into some numbers.

CHP has 5,500 ~ 6,500 sworn officers, call it about 6,000 ±10%

168 hours in a week requires 4.2 full time shifts for coverage, so 1,400 officers per shift. Deduct 20% for supervisors and command leaves about 1,100 CHP officers on average patrolling the roads at any given time. That's about 10 guys out driving from each field office—one in a slick top.

EDIT: actual number of guys on the road will be even lower once you factor in vacation, training, court, paperwork, shift overlaps … so perhaps 7~8 guys out driving instead of 10
 
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berth said:
I thought about that years ago.

"Simply(tm)" a camera looking backward that points out any vehicle that's "gaining" on you.

The premise being that the officer, typically, has to pace you, so to do that they first have to catch up.

So, if you see someone closing in on you, give them an extra look see to determine if its Johnny Law, so you can act accordingly.
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You would just be better off creating an app which interfaces with car 360 cameras and tracks cars around it all the time.... Given enough users you would basically have real time updates on CHP or child abduction or any other vehicles.....

Give early adopters free express lane privileges and there you go a private camera / big brother in EVERY corner on every HWY.....
Sell data to advertisers and government = $$$$
 
TheRiddler said:
There's about 100 of those "specially marked patrol vehicles," With around 108 field offices, that makes for around 1 per office. They'll be extremely rare to see in the wild.
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I don't believe the plan was/is one per office, some offices have only a few officers and others have dozens and dozens.
 
Dmitriy said:
You would just be better off creating an app which interfaces with car 360 cameras and tracks cars around it all the time.... Given enough users you would basically have real time updates on CHP or child abduction or any other vehicles.....

Give early adopters free express lane privileges and there you go a private camera / big brother in EVERY corner on every HWY.....
Sell data to advertisers and government = $$$$
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Part 1 in your post is already happening. As is Part 2 but P2 is not with guvment cameras, it is with private industry.
 
TheRiddler said:
There's about 100 of those "specially marked patrol vehicles," With around 108 field offices, that makes for around 1 per office. They'll be extremely rare to see in the wild.
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I saw one this week in Walnut Creek - it was on the shoulder of the connector from 680 to 24.
 
Saw one the other day on i5 when coming back from Thill. It was purple, 4 door dodge - could barely see CHP on the side.
 
Highway 101 on the Cotati Grade. Grey Durango.
He was busy with someone when I was going southbound and again on my way back going northbound.
 
Dunno about colorful, but I saw 9 (!!!!) of them posted up today along 84, 9, 35, 280.

I was in my car so if anyone saw a guy in a cage smacking his roof at you to give you a heads up, that was probably me.
 
Be curious to hear how these Durango's hold up, they don't have a very good rep.
 
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