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Craig Hightower Killer?

there is however enormous remorse and regret.

Like others, I thank you for posting this. It makes me a little ill that we as a group vilify drivers who make an honest mistake that they would do anything to take back. Some criticize the driver for driving an SUV, as if that should be a crime.

Well, Craig chose to ride a motorcycle. I applaud his choice, but if two motorists find themselves surprised and unable to avoid a collision the guy on the motorcycle gets the short end of the stick. Anybody who thinks that the drivers around you assume any more liability because you've chosen to ride a motorcycle need to rethink your position.

I ache for Craig, his family and the driver who may be asking himself every day what he could have done differently.
 
Like others, I thank you for posting this. It makes me a little ill that we as a group vilify drivers who make an honest mistake that they would do anything to take back. Some criticize the driver for driving an SUV, as if that should be a crime.

Well, Craig chose to ride a motorcycle. I applaud his choice, but if two motorists find themselves surprised and unable to avoid a collision the guy on the motorcycle gets the short end of the stick. Anybody who thinks that the drivers around you assume any more liability because you've chosen to ride a motorcycle need to rethink your position.

I ache for Craig, his family and the driver who may be asking himself every day what he could have done differently.


Exactly
 
I'm slow. I rode a short bus to work today. I'm retardeddddddd

Would you try to be more considerate of those who are developmentally disabled?
Your remark is an insult to many good people who aren't as lucky as you are.
Interjecting your asswipe comments in to any thread with Craig's name in it doesn't do anything but insult his memory.

You need to be more careful about hitting the "submit reply" button.
 
I don't care about the SUV driver's "enormous guilt." How can any rider genuinely have sympathy for the guy. Fuck him. He's just another motorcycle killer. And the accident was entirely preventable: If he had taken the few seconds to check his side mirror and his blind spot, and yield to Craig, Craig would still be alive today.

I do feel though for Max and Irene Hightower, who are simply terrific people who raised a terrific son, as well as for Laurel, his GF, and for his other friends as well as the friends he would have befriended.
 
I don't care about the SUV driver's "enormous guilt."

And I disagree. I don't care to take it quite as far as tzrider did, but I respect his opinion.

I _do_ drive a car, and I _know_ that I make mistakes from time to time that could possibly hurt somebody. Granted as a rider I am doubly cautious anytime I'm in my car and there's a rider around, but for me (or you) to think that there is zero chance that you or I will be apologizing for taking a rider's life someday is as dishonest as it is self righteous.

The driver owes Craig's memory, his friends, and his family remorse, but from where I sit to deny him even the smallest amount of forgiveness or understanding is wrongheaded.
 
See, your response is what I find puzzling on BARF.

When a rider makes a bad decision that ends up costing him his life, he's branded an idiot by many BARFers as well as non-riders. He's excoriated and abuse is heaped upon him for being selfish in making such a quick and fatal decision for his family.

But some guy driving a cage makes a bad decision or two and kills one of us and he gets sympathy?

If he could take his guilt and use it to make a PSA for motorists to watch out for riders, then I'd give him some due. But so far, he has done nothing to merit any feeling.
 
See, your response is what I find puzzling on BARF.

When a rider makes a bad decision that ends up costing him his life, he's branded an idiot by many BARFers as well as non-riders. He's excoriated and abuse is heaped upon him for being selfish in making such a quick and fatal decision for his family.

Find me a quote where _I_ have done that and I might think you had a point.

I work to keep awareness of the fallibility of humans in practical situations a part of my response to _every_ situation. It's not a common thing on people's minds around here, which is what motivates at least half my posts.

I _do_ excoriate riders and drivers who have a pattern of bad decision making, or who show severe recklessness with their lives or the lives of others. This is a special category and one which seems not to apply to the driver who hit Craig.
 
You are a little off. Scalvert is right. And have you talked to the SUV driver?? I guess it is easier to picture him as vicious ass hole who has no heart:wtf
 
See, your response is what I find puzzling on BARF.

When a rider makes a bad decision that ends up costing him his life, he's branded an idiot by many BARFers as well as non-riders. He's excoriated and abuse is heaped upon him for being selfish in making such a quick and fatal decision for his family.

I don't know if this will make it better or worse, but first distinguish between two groups.

We can pretty well count on non-riders to have the opinion that we're idiots. It's part of their perspective. For the purpose of this discussion, it's mostly irrelevant noise, unless you happen to feel the investigation may have been biased.

Then there are the riders who pile on when someone crashes. It's not insignificant that nobody really did that in this situation. On BARF, that's unusual, but then Craig was an unusual guy. People did seem to realize that he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Among every group of riders I have known, there is an unspoken ethic that we should take responsibility for everything. It's not true in a legal sense, but the prevailing belief is that nobody is going to watch out for you but you. In large part, that is literally true. It's true for cagers too, but they survive a larger percentage of their crashes.

If you really look at most of the posts where people kick a rider when he's down, there's usually a clearer picture of fault. Many of these are single vehicle accidents, so it's hard to say the matter of fault is ambiguous. The facts that Craig was killed in a collision with a car and we have not heard the account of any objective witnesses make the scenario ambiguous; none of us really know what happened. Craig's experience level is known to many of us, as is the fact that he was a rational guy with good judgment. He gets the benefit of the doubt to the extent that nobody has accused him of being irresponsible.

But some guy driving a cage makes a bad decision or two and kills one of us and he gets sympathy?

If he could take his guilt and use it to make a PSA for motorists to watch out for riders, then I'd give him some due. But so far, he has done nothing to merit any feeling.

I've said this before and it just seems to float away into the ether: When a driver fails to see another vehicle, he may have a collision. If the other vehicle is a car, there may be insurance claims. If the other vehicle is a bike, there may be a funeral. In all likelihood, the driver is not more or less negligent in either case; his error is the same. The consequences of the error are the result of not only the error, but other conditions, including what kind of conveyance the other party chose to use that day.

So, if this was a simple accident, in which the driver wasn't impaired, distracted, being aggressive or otherwise negligent, I cannot see why he has any more obligation to make a PSA or any other restitution than any other motorist in a traffic accident.

It's a lot to ask of anyone to have any measure of compassion for a guy whose actions killed a beloved member of the riding community. Still, it makes me feel better personally to at least "try it on," partly because my impression of Craig was that of a guy who did have the ability to walk in another man's shoes. His words and ideas influenced mine over time and, whether it's what he would have intended, this is where my notion of his example and sensibilities leaves me.
 
Remember, forgiving is not forgetting.

I know first hand the only way to overcome grief is to allow the anger to subside. It never seems to diminish the loss but it allows grief to be maximized and life to begin to creep forward.

Last week a young man went down and was dragged beneath an SUV. He was not a careless rider rather the contrary from what I witnessed earlier in the ride. Perhaps his attention was diverted for an instant checking on the riders behind him; we won't really know without his version of events. Fortunately in this case we will hear his story, in the case of Craig we don't know his side; we only know that we lost him and it seems so simple to really hate to the guts the guy that killed him.

As for what have the driver's actions been since the accident? Do any of us know for sure he hasn't addressed anyone about this? As a parent the last voice I would want to hear is the one that killed my baby; I would however look at his statement, look at his actions at the scene, look at his overall patterns of behavior before the accident.

My impression of Craig's parants is that they are incapable of harboring mallace in their hearts and could use all the positive thought we have directed their way.
 
I don't care about the SUV driver's "enormous guilt." How can any rider genuinely have sympathy for the guy. Fuck him. He's just another motorcycle killer. And the accident was entirely preventable: If he had taken the few seconds to check his side mirror and his blind spot, and yield to Craig, Craig would still be alive today.

I do feel though for Max and Irene Hightower, who are simply terrific people who raised a terrific son, as well as for Laurel, his GF, and for his other friends as well as the friends he would have befriended.

About a year ago I was punted onto the pavement on 880 in San Leandro. I was at full freeway speed. The guy who hit me made an abrupt lane change - decided he wanted my spot, and said later that he didn't know I was there until he heard the sound of the impact on his driver side door (don't believe the rumor that loud exhaust is a safety device). I was right next to him when it happened. If he'd looked before he made his abrupt lane change, he'd have looked me right in the face.

Preventable is the word that stuck in my head here. The few seconds it would have taken to look before throwing several thousand pounds of steel at someone who had no idea what was about to happen, and who's only protection was leathers and a helmet. In my case, the consequences were a trip to the trauma center, surgery, and several months of rehab. I know he felt bad. I have this vague memory of him trying to get my attention and apologizing as they were loading me in the ambulance. But his feeling bad didn't matter much to me while I was laying on the freeway having my leathers cut off - unable to move or to talk. For three days I actually thought I was dead, but everyone was afraid to tell me.

I'm not sure yet what I think about this sort of thing - even now. But one thing seems clear. Like was said - things like this are preventable. I'm not sure how much sympathy I have for anyone who chooses to get out on the road and doesn't remember at every moment that they share the road with others - who are at the mercy of their decisions and judgement. As riders, we are constantly assessing and adjusting to the environment. I wish cagers had the same awareness. We all suffer the consequences of errors. I know there is such a thing as an accident - but in that micro second before people act, they need to think. And if they don't....not sure guilt over the result is adequate compensation for the lives ruined. If I knew and loved Craig, I'm sure I wouldn't think so.

RIP Craig.
 
I agree with masameet on how he finds some responses on BARF puzzling, when sometimes riders are called idiots on BARF. I don't see how a BARFer can side with the driver in Craig's case.

Littlebeast put it best. His is an example of a very preventable collision. In Craig's case it may have been preventable as well.

Anybody who thinks that the drivers around you assume any more liability because you've chosen to ride a motorcycle need to rethink your position.

I don't know about you but when I get out on the road in a car, I even watch out for bicyclists and pedestrians, imagine that. Quoting tzrider here, in his view, I don't need to watch out for bicyclists in case I "accidentally" sideswipe one in the adjacent lane, because according to his words, don't think that "the drivers around you assume any more liability because you've chosen to ride a [bicycle]"

Yes, I do think drivers need to assume more responsibility, if not liability as you put it. Otherwise we may just abandon the forum and drive bigger and bigger SUVs all the time and that's about it.
 
Littlebeast that is an amazing story! I'm glad you made it back. Wow, that must have been a life changing experience. Are you back to riding yet? It sounds like you stayed conscious the whole time, that's a good thing. I bet the pain was intense. I hate it when they say, "I didn't see you." I was bicycling a few months ago and some 32 year old in a bmw turned right into me and knocked me into the hospital for three days, broke my back vertabraes. Ofcourse he told the police that I wasn't there or some such nonsense. Didn't say shit to me, where I would have followed to the hospital if I had done that and followed up too. Whatever, I don't have much sympathy either. In this case I think we all just want to know the details a little more.
 
I agree with masameet on how she finds some responses on BARF puzzling, when sometimes riders are called idiots on BARF. I don't see how a BARFer can side with the driver in Craig's case.
I never knew Craig, but I'm pretty sure I missed out. I am not siding with the driver, but unless he maliciously hit Craig, then I do feel bad for him. I cannot imagine having to live with the guilt of taking a life.
It is not impossible to say that somebody screwed up hugely, and feel sorry at the same time.
 
Yes, I do think drivers need to assume more responsibility, if not liability as you put it. Otherwise we may just abandon the forum and drive bigger and bigger SUVs all the time and that's about it.

Sure they should. But my point is if you're counting on them to do that, you're fooling yourself.
 
Littlebeast that is an amazing story! I'm glad you made it back. Wow, that must have been a life changing experience. Are you back to riding yet? It sounds like you stayed conscious the whole time, that's a good thing. I bet the pain was intense. I hate it when they say, "I didn't see you." I was bicycling a few months ago and some 32 year old in a bmw turned right into me and knocked me into the hospital for three days, broke my back vertabraes. Ofcourse he told the police that I wasn't there or some such nonsense. Didn't say shit to me, where I would have followed to the hospital if I had done that and followed up too. Whatever, I don't have much sympathy either. In this case I think we all just want to know the details a little more.

Life changing? I dunno. Wasn't conscious the whole time - piecing it together - I think it was about 10-15 minutes of being knocked cold. When I came to, the emergency crews were well into their business. Yes - riding again. My worst injury (after the brain bleeding) was an almost severed bicep tendon in my left shoulder. Surgery fixed it. Thank god for good gear. Was determined to make sure I wasn't screwed out of the best of the 2007 riding season - so hunkered down into the PT and made fast progress. Needed help getting into and out of my leathers for the first couple of months, but riding without a strong left shoulder wasn't too bad. Being on my bike again felt like a victory over being potentially robbed of the experience. I got a cold place in my heart for the human waste that caused it - and then stepped back while insurance and lawyers cleaned up the mess. But am sobered by the thought of those way less fortunate than me in similar circumstances. I got a second chance. And I plan to make the most of it.
 
I rode a lot with Craig. By far he could anticipate drivers moves better then anyone I have every ridden with. Craig literally had 20/10 vision. I would be on rides with him and he would be telling me about stuff he saw that I had no clue about. You can bet he saw the driver and got eye contact. From the tid bit of a report listed here, the coasty saw Craig and new he was in the right lane. If he lost him then that should have been a tip off that he needed to find him before taking the right lane. I'll give the coasty credit for staying at the scene and trying to administer first aid. The coasty was negligently inattentive in his driving for what ever reason he wishes to dream up. It cost Craig his life. Is it criminally negligent? Is it involuntary manslaughter? We may never know.
RIP Craig

Borg_Girl
 
Accident did not occur at the Posey exit. Accident occured on 7th street between Jackson and Madison. Craig was beside the Equinox, driver saw Craig then lost him as Craig was beside him when light turned green. Equinox collided with Craig as driver attempted to move into the right lane Craig went off road beside a parked car struck a wall died at scene.
Very tragic indeed.
Driver stayed at scene and attempted to administer first aid until responders arrived.
I will try to post pictures of the street where this occured, Oakland had recently changed he traffic pattern and you have to move over one lane after crossing Jackson St.
In August and September I was nearly nailed in the same spot more times than I can count and after Craig's death opted to enter the intersectionf rom the far left and accelerate around the cars in the right lane.
Contrary to what we want to believe, or what we need to justify this accident, there was no road rage, there was no cellphone, there is however enormous remorse and regret.

Thanks for posting up specifics of the crash site and adding additional info that somehow most of us have never been privvy to. I went to the crash site last Thursday; the plaque that the OMC had installed was gone and the wall is completely repaired.
One of the times I was there in the days following Craig's death, two people there came forward claiming to have been witnesses the crash. They said they'd been visiting every day. It was also on their commute path and they'd been used to seeing Craig every morning. And they supposedly saw the crash. They said the SUV and Craig came out of the tube together and had been on the same route since before the tube in Alameda. they didn't understand why the crash happened, the SUV driver had to have known he was there.
Since I wasn't actually there, can't verify the statement or even the identity of the person who game me this info, I have no way of knowing how much if any of it is true.
Irene and Max Hightower are indeed uniquely magnificent people with hugely generous hearts. I've never asked them about their feelings or the details on the issue of liability or fault of the SUV driver for their son's death. I've never asked them if they were planning to file a civil suit or press the authorities to prosecute. My gut tells me they are handling everything with great care for Craig's memory and also with sensitivity toward the SUV driver. Max is a former serviceman. Craig worked for the government and at one time worked as a civillian on a military base. I'm guessing Max and Irene are opting to not seek any legal or civil remedy since neither will "fix" or erase what happened.
 
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