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Digital SLR / DSLR Camera Question / DSLR Thread 2

the question of which to get 5d or 5dmk2...the forum will answer his question with a lil research...
 
Thanks zypher. The more and more I read though, the more it seems that I am not ready for the price hike to go to a full frame camera just yet. Gonna stick to collecting glass and get a body with a faster shutter speed, more ISO range, and less shutter lag. Right now, after looking at everything, and seeing what my needs are, I may just go to a 40D.


Model ............................................FOVC Sensor .........Pixel Size .......Pixels/Megapixels Viewfinder DLA*
Canon PowerShot G9....................4.6x 7.6 x 5.7mm .......1.9µm .......4000 x 3000 .....12.1
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XS / 1000D 1.6x 22.2 x 14.8mm ....5.7µm .......3888 x 2592 .....10.1 .81x 95% f/9.3
Canon EOS Digital Rebel T1i / 500D 1.6x 22.3 x 14.9mm ....4.7µm .......4752 x 3168 .....15.1 .87x 95% f/7.6
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi / 450D 1.6x 22.2 x 14.8mm ....5.2µm .......4272 x 2848 .....12.2 .87x 95% f/8.4
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi / 400D 1.6x 22.2 x 14.8mm ....5.7µm .......3888 x 2592 .....10.1 .80x 95% f/9.3
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT / 350D 1.6x 22.2 x 14.8mm ....6.4µm .......3456 x 2304 .....8.0 .80x 95% f/10.4
Canon EOS 300D Digital Rebel .......1.6x 22.7 x 15.1mm ....7.4µm .......3088 x 2056 .....6.3 .80x 95% f/11.8
Canon EOS 50D ......................... 1.6x 22.3 x 14.9mm ....4.7µm .......4752 x 3168 .....15.1 .95x 95% f/7.6
Canon EOS 40D ......................... 1.6x 22.2 x 14.8mm ....5.7µm .......3888 x 2592 .....10.1 .95x 95% f/9.3
Canon EOS 30D ..........................1.6x 22.5 x 15.0mm ....6.4µm .......3504 x 2336 .....8.2 .90x 95% f/10.3
Canon EOS 20D .......................... 1.6x 22.5 x 15.0mm ....6.4µm .......3504 x 2336 .....8.2 .90x 95% f/10.3
Canon EOS 10D .......................... 1.6x 22.7 x 15.1mm ....7.4µm .......3088 x 2056 .....6.3 .88x 95% f/11.8
Canon EOS 7D ........................... 1.6x 22.3 x 14.9mm ....4.3µm .......5184 x 3456 .....18.0 1.0x 100% f/6.8
Canon EOS 5D Mark II ................. 1.0x 36.0 x 24.0mm ....6.4µm .......5616 x 3744 .....21.1 .71x 98% f/10.3
Canon EOS 5D ........................... 1.0x 35.8 x 23.9mm ....8.2µm .......4368 x 2912 .....12.8 .71x 96% f/13.2
Canon EOS 1D Mark IV ................ 1.3x 27.9 x 18.6mm ....5.7µm .......4896 x 3264 .....16.1 .76x 100% f/9.1
Canon EOS 1D Mark III ................ 1.3x 28.1 x 18.7mm ....7.2µm .......3888 x 2592 .....10.1 .76x 100% f/11.4
Canon EOS 1D Mark II N .............. 1.3x 28.7 x 19.1mm ....8.2µm .......3520 x 2336 .....8.2 .72x 100% f/12.7
Canon EOS 1D Mark II ................. 1.3x 28.7 x 19.1mm ....8.2µm .......3520 x 2336 .....8.2 .72x 100% f/12.7
Canon EOS 1DS Mark III .............. 1.0x 36.0 x 24.0mm ....6.4µm .......5632 x 3750 .....21.1 .76x 100% f/10.3
Canon EOS 1DS Mark II ............... 1.0x 36.0 x 24.0mm ....7.2µm .......4992 x 3328 .....16.6 .70x 100% f/11.6


Model ............................................fps .......Max JPG..... Max RAW... Startup .... Shutter Lag........ VF Blackout
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XS / 1000D ...3 / 1.5 .. n/a ...........5 ............ .1s .......... 90ms
Canon EOS Digital Rebel T1i / 500D ...3.4 ....... 170 .......... 9 ............. .1s .......... 90ms ................ 130ms
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi / 450D....3.5 ....... 53 ........... 6 ............. .1s .......... 90ms ................ 130ms
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi / 400D....3.0 ....... 27 ........... 10 ........... .2s .......... 100ms ............... 170ms
Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT / 350D.....3.0 ....... 14 ........... 4 ............. .2s .......... 100ms .............. 170ms
Canon EOS 50D .............................6.3 ....... 90 ........... 16..............1s .......... 59ms ................ 100ms
Canon EOS 40D .............................6.5 ....... 75 ........... 17 ........... .15s ......... 59ms ................ 100ms
Canon EOS 30D .............................5.0 ....... 30 ........... 11 ........... .15s ......... 65ms ................ 110ms
Canon EOS 20D .............................5.0 ....... 23 ........... 6 ............. .2s .......... 65ms ................ 115ms
Canon EOS 7D ...............................8.0 ....... 94/126 ..... 15 ........... .1s .......... 59ms ................ 100ms
Canon EOS 5D Mark II .....................3.9 ....... 78/310 ..... 13/14 ....... .1s .......... 73ms ................ 145ms
Canon EOS 5D ...............................3.0 ....... 60 ........... 17 ........... .2s .......... 75ms ................ 145ms
Canon EOS 1D Mark IV ....................10.0 ..... 121 ......... 28 ........... .1s .......... 40-55ms ........... 80ms
Canon EOS 1D Mark III ....................10.0 ..... 110 ......... 30 ........... .2s .......... 40-55ms ........... 80ms
Canon EOS 1D Mark II N ..................8.5 ....... 48 ........... 22 ........... .2s .......... 40-55ms ........... 87ms
Canon EOS 1DS Mark III ..................5.0 ....... 56 ........... 12 ........... .2s .......... 40-55ms ........... 80ms
Canon EOS 1DS Mark II ...................4.0 ....... 32 ........... 11 ........... .3s .......... 40-55ms ........... 87ms

This site has been an awesome resource that lays out the info in just the way I like to see it.

www.the-digital-picture.com
 
or you can take a look at the new 7d...question: what will you be shooting more?
i can give my input if i know what you shoot mostly...and maybe give you some advice
on some glass...
 
Thinking about a lot of business stuff. Advertising, networking, portfolio building, etc. Have a lot to say and ask and it's totally not sorted out right now. :loco

Will probably follow this up with a long rambling post in the next couple of days. Trying to kickstart my brain again.

Also, updated my blog (well, not really, but I posted to it. And I'm going to get back into it once I figure out what direction I'm going) and I'm on twitter, mostly to get more realtime communication with some sources.
 
zypher said:
or you can take a look at the new 7d...question: what will you be shooting more?
i can give my input if i know what you shoot mostly...and maybe give you some advice
on some glass...
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I would be shooting the three things I love most, my family (particularly a small child that will not stay still), my dogs in action, and motorcycles. I may also get involved in motorsports event (not race) photography, just to get experience. I'd be working for free for a friend.

cycle61 said:
Thinking about a lot of business stuff. Advertising, networking, portfolio building, etc. Have a lot to say and ask and it's totally not sorted out right now. :loco

Will probably follow this up with a long rambling post in the next couple of days. Trying to kickstart my brain again.
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Nick. Don't procrastinate, act. Fuck getting it all together. What will happen is that you will get a lot of TLDR. Just use us as a sounding board and it will be much more beneficial to you and hopefully keep you motivated.
 
Baptistro said:
Just use us as a sounding board and it will be much more beneficial to you and hopefully keep you motivated.
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That right there, that's how I roll. I write mostly for myself, because putting it all out on a keyboard makes me think clearly.

And often good advice and ideas filter in from outside.

Also, found through Chase Jarvis' Twitter and blog: $100k in 140 seconds
 
cycle61 said:
That right there, that's how I roll. I write mostly for myself, because putting it all out on a keyboard makes me think clearly.

And often good advice and ideas filter in from outside.

Also, found through Chase Jarvis' Twitter and blog: $100k in 140 seconds
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Cool contest. You gonna enter?

And another question. I have decided that the 70-200 can wait for now. So, 16-35mm f/2.8? Or 17-40mm f/4? About a $300 difference in used lenses.
 
if only 300 difference between two i'd go for the 16-35. the lil extra width and bigger aperture would be nice, especially if you ever move to full frame camera
 
I have exactly zero video experience. Maybe I will. :laughing

(and go for the 16-35. You won't regret it, especially if you ever go full-frame)
 
I will try to get a good deal on a 16-35 then. BTW, any of you guys have any experience with www.supremecamera.com? They have some ridiculously low prices on bodies.

$1,879.00 for a 5DMkii
$1,269.00 for a 7D

:wtf
 
Thing is, a lot of their other items are priced comparably to other retailers. It is just a few items like the ones I am looking at that are reduced.
 
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Supreme_Camera

:thumbdown:thumbdown

11/11/09 2:03 PM
Made a camera purchase, which was followed by a phone call to try and entice me to upgrade my purchase. Was then followed by an email to contact "Sean" who would personally handle my order. "Sean" attempted again to get me to purchase much more. When I held my ground, he said the item was on back-order, and not available. I refused to budge and told him the order is therefore cancelled, and requested an email confirming same. No email forthcoming, so I emailed them confirming cancellation, and called my credit card alerting them to same.
Stay away from these guys!
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11/10/09 12:40 PM
This is obviously a bait-and-switch operation. They claimed that the camcorder I was purchasing was in stock and would ship on the 9th, but then decided it was backordered when I wouldn't buy any of their overpriced, fraudulently described accessories. On their website, they list the BP-809 at $139.99 and call it a 6-hour replacement battery. Amazon sells it for less than $55 and Canon's literature says that you only get 100 minutes of recording time with it. On the phone, their rep even lied to me about the capabilities of the camera to get me to buy an extremely overpriced SD card.
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10/15/09 4:15 PM
BAIT and SWITCH DEALER - DO NOT TRUST THEM! The whole idea is to lure you in with an attractive price, then force you to "confirm" with a sales rep, who reveals that the camera is really a gray market item (if you read between the sleezy lines), and you will need to up-grade to the full retail price camera if you want the real thing. If you are unaware of these tactics, then you could easily end up with a gray market camera and a boat-load of accessories they will insist you need. IT'S ALL A RIP-OFF!!!
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10/31/09 1:02 AM
WARNING: This online retailer conducts business in a DECEPTIVE, UNPROFESSIONAL, SLOPPY manner. Supreme Camera is also Mega Wholesale & TheCameraProfessional.com

The factual list of their DISHONEST practice is endless. To start:
- Video camcorder & accessory order was shipped in a used box with holes, improperly packed and nearly opened.
- Video camera was missing, three items were substituted.
- One item looked like it had vomit on it.
- The "extended warranty," which arrived over a week later was for a retail store in NJ

Unless trying to get a credit for your unfulfilled order is a sport, you can do without the mess and stress of this fraudulent operation.
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yes, exactly the type of stories i was expecting. also some of these stores will sell camera for cheap, but charge more for stuff like... oh, the batter charger, the box it comes in, the battery itself, etc
 
i buy my camera equipment at BHphotovideo.com. as what Nick posted, check reselleratings.com for reviews about the store.

and i think you will be more happy with a 7d with a 70-200L attached to it. fast focusing and 8fps burst will get you the images you want/need.

IMO i would get the telephoto lens first since you shoot motorcycles, family portraits and some sports. the tele lens will get the job done. as for the wide lenses you have mentioned i would go with the 16-35 2.8, great for landscapes!..if you use this lens on people w/ a FF camera. i would suggest not to use it, you will be dealing with distortions, and the proportion on the nose to the ears will be not so good. so get the 70-200L 2.8 if you can.

Let me know if you're in fremont/union city area, i will gladly let you hand held my camera with a 70-200L 2.8 IS attached to it...
 
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