Firing squads are back

[HappyHighwayman]

Go back to Canada!

I think Canada had capital punishment by hanging until 1978.

The Death Penalty is not an American Thing and being anti-Death Penalty is not a Canadian thing

Personally I don't shed a tear for any guilty individual who is sentenced to death, but if you want to discuss the best possible system, it does not include state sanctioned murder.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

Why we don't just use a lethal dose of pure Heroin is beyond me.

One last high, then bye bye bye.

Pretty sure heroin is an illegal drug.

 

[Eldritch]

How many people have been executed and then found to be innocent?
How much money has been spent incarcertating people on death row, paying for their lawyers are appeals?

How many of the victims actually want them executed? Does it really provide comfort, or is it just revenge?

Most rationale behind the "good reasons" for capital punishment have been effectively debunked. People obsessed with killing them are bloodthirsty.

You say that like revenge is a bad thing?

 

[Kornholio]

Punishment should fit the crime. I don't mean in the was that one is executed the same way crime was committed, but in the way that I font care if criminal experience some discomfort.

Sorry. The Constitution still applies...even if you're a convicted criminal.

 

[MrIncredible]

Could we have the squad wear Donald Trump masks?

 

[Reli]

Sorry I just do not trust my government enough to kill someone for me.

Never understood the people who say they do not trust the government are the one in favor of the death penalty.

And favor aggressive police powers.

Gotta keep those pesky brown people under control, I guess.

 

[Blankpage]

How many of the victims actually want them executed? Does it really provide comfort, or is it just revenge?

Does it really provide comfort? Yes
Is it just revenge? Its punishment

 

[Eldritch]

Sorry. The Constitution still applies...even if you're a convicted criminal.

What you say does not conflict with what he says. This nation needs a severe reawakening to what cruel and unusual actually is.

 

[Entoptic]

Hypoxia is the best and safest way to end a human life. The person becomes euphoric and then just passes out from lack of oxygen and never knows what is going on.

 

[Wormwood]

What you say does not conflict with what he says. This nation needs a severe reawakening to what cruel and unusual actually is.

Were we not recently enlightened by our own torture tactics as to what is cruel and unusual?

 

[tzrider]

Sorry. The Constitution still applies...even if you're a convicted criminal.

The thing about "cruel and unusual" is that those are pretty subjective notions.

"Unusual" is interesting because over time the barriers to execution have increased, driving the number of executions down, thereby making executions more unusual. The more you do it, the less unusual it would be.

"Cruel" is also in the eye of the beholder. It might also be conceptually linked to "unusual," in the sense that if we're going to kill somebody, we want to conform to the state of the art for humane killing or we want to do it the way we usually do it. It's not hard to argue that killing someone who wants to be alive is cruel, but if you can get past that, I'm not sure where you draw the line. You could kill someone in a way that is completely painless but does catastrophic damage to the body. Would it be more cruel to apply lethal injection and risk not finding a vein, botching the drug cocktail, etc. or to fire a large bolt into the medulla oblongata?

 

[bcv_west]

And favor aggressive police powers.

Gotta keep those pesky brown people under control, I guess.

If people aren't dissuaded by the execution of an occasional innocent person as collateral damage, I doubt they're bothered by disproportionately executing brown people.

 

[Wormwood]

With the focus on cruel and unusual I would think a firing squad might be acceptable.
When done right it is one of the most quick and painless delivery methods.

Why must we have an visually pleasing delivery method? We are an odd lot.

 

[Eldritch]

Were we not recently enlightened by our own torture tactics as to what is cruel and unusual?

Bah, we used sleep deprivation and waterboarding. Fucking childs play. cruel and unusual is when you start opening the Torquemada handbook. Defining shit like busting rocks in hard labor prisons as cruel and unusual is absurd.

 

[asthmodeus]

Bah, we used sleep deprivation and waterboarding. Fucking childs play. cruel and unusual is when you start opening the Torquemada handbook. Defining shit like busting rocks in hard labor prisons as cruel and unusual is absurd.

how about stalin's gulags?

 

[Wormwood]

Bah, we used sleep deprivation and waterboarding. Fucking childs play. cruel and unusual is when you start opening the Torquemada handbook. Defining shit like busting rocks in hard labor prisons as cruel and unusual is absurd.

Agreed in bold.

Sleep deprivation and water boarding fit the definition in my book. I do respect the fact that torture has an escalating nature and the two are considered low level offenders.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

You say that like revenge is a bad thing?

It's likely worse on society, yes.

 

[Blankpage]

If people aren't dissuaded by the execution of an occasional innocent person as collateral damage,

Could be that the sentence is handed down too liberally, should be reserved for the most obviously guilty cases.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

Could be that the sentence is handed down too liberally, should be reserved for the most obviously guilty cases.

Then how would southern states get to execute minority underage mentally handicapped people??

 

[enki]

They could make it a shooting sports event. Put the bad guy out 1500 meters.