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First time riding with a newbie and he went down

I believe xquest has a law suit pending.:|
 
You're gonna get sued!
GotSick said:
So after work on Sunday I wanted to go on a ride, it was a beautiful day outside. I am taking my usual route, South Side Rd to Highway 25 all the way out to Pinnacles National Monument. On my way out a newish looking Zx6r fly's by me. I am thinking this guy wants to play, so I speed up and stay with him on the straight all the way out but once it started getting twisty he was going to slow for me so I pass him and let him follow.

At Pinnacles I pull over we talk, exchange numbers all that good stuff and I offered to show him another road to ride. On our way back from Pinnacles, about 3 turns in he goes down.

I feel like he was trying to keep up with me instead of riding at his own pace. I offered to follow behind him but he said it was ok, so I went ahead and was in front.

His bike was ok, windscreen and mirrors were off, but his fram sliders saved his bike. Hopefully he will still be up for riding with me again guy was a cool dude.


Any tips on riding with someone learning??
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My rider leader rides the fastest. Way faster than I do. She says quite clearly "Everybody ride your own ride, and I will meet you at any turning points".

Nobody crashes anyone.
 
Brown81 said:
+1

RIDERS: YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY.


That goes for: walking, wiping your ass, jerking off, driving a car, jumping out of a plane, whistling, eating, etc., etc.

You think people would be smart enough to not just follow along like a fucking lemming. Apparently some are not, and want other grown-ups to wipe their asses and change their poopy diapers for them.

Here's a bit of advice, own your own shit.


Good Lord. :wow
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+2

The controls were in the other rider's hands, not the OPs.
 
I do not feel responsible at all for him crashing, but I do feel like I could have prevented him from crashing by either just riding my ride and leaving him behind and then letting him catch up, Or just riding very slow. I am from Hollister and I only have 2 people that I ride with on a regular basis. Both are people I've known since we were kids. One a good rider the other a new rider.

I ride with my newbie friend regularly and he stays at his own pace and hasn't went down. I just feel like I sucked the zx6r into the corner because I didn't use any breaking, ect. I just went through it and he tried to follow at his same speed thinking he didn't have to slow down.
 
You're not his mother. It was his lack of discipline. If you have to adjust your riding style every time somebody looks at you you are basically saying it is your responsibility to adjust your style depending on who is around, which is not true. As long as you ride safely and at your skill level, you've been sufficiently responsible.
 
I ride with my dad occasionally. He's WAAAY faster than me after years of racing while I just have a few years street experience. Fortunately, I'm not a very reckless person and just let him walk on me while I have fun at my own pace. He waits at any turnoffs in a visible location so I can slow down and let him jump from the side of the road right in front of me again. After thousands of miles with him, neither of us has ever been down. (actually, I don't think he's ever been down on the street with near a miilion miles).
 
Brown81 said:
You think people would be smart enough to not just follow along like a fucking lemming. Apparently some are not, and want other grown-ups to wipe their asses and change their poopy diapers for them.

Here's a bit of advice, own your own shit.


Good Lord. :wow
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Aren't you almost at an age where you will need to have your poopy diapers changed..? :laughing
 
I'm still new to ridding, and I can tell when I'm ridding above my limits that's when I make the call to ease up. Even if he was following you, you know when you're coming in too hot. My heart rate usually speeds up.


Not sure how old the guy was but sounds kinda young, hopefully he has learned from this.
 
flipSD said:
I'm still new to ridding, and I can tell when I'm ridding above my limits that's when I make the call to ease up. Even if he was following you, you know when you're coming in too hot. My heart rate usually speeds up.


Not sure how old the guy was but sounds kinda young, hopefully he has learned from this.
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he was older than me, his first year of riding on a new Zx6r ( his first bike ). He also already went down once, broke his ankle, he said his reason for falling was because he was following a friend and his buddy went down which led to him going down also. So he only had a few months riding experience, let alone learning on a Zx6r.

Looked to be in his late 20's
 
yeah, that guy needs some alone time on 2 wheels, whether he wants it or not.
 
Brings me back to my point on a different thread. They have made it way too easy for people with NO skill to get a permit or license!! There would be way less injurys and rip threads if it was required to know how to ride to get the class M credentials
 
Make sure you don't get sued XD
 
angelsndevils said:
Brings me back to my point on a different thread. They have made it way too easy for people with NO skill to get a permit or license!! There would be way less injurys and rip threads if it was required to know how to ride to get the class M credentials
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The MSF Course is a GREAT! way to get your license with no skills. They have you riding 250's and smaller bikes doing all of the DMV test basically. You go out take the written and wallaaa now you have your M1 License and can go buy a liter bike no problem and go crash.

I recommend taking the MSF Course and then taking it again with the bike you buy.
 
GotSick said:
The MSF Course is a GREAT! way to get your license with no skills. They have you riding 250's and smaller bikes doing all of the DMV test basically. You go out take the written and wallaaa now you have your M1 License and can go buy a liter bike no problem and go crash.

I recommend taking the MSF Course and then taking it again with the bike you buy.
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Yeah, but doing lock to lock turns with clips ons is kinda tricky. MSF is far better than nothing but is way lacking. Seriously, riding is so freaken complicated that unless I ride the twistie loop day after day I forget certain things or worse, start up bad habits. We need a far more structured MSF course with the top layer being coached by riding behind the student to observe exactly what is going on, on a known twistie course. Then again and again.

The real problem is attracting the experienced and skilled teachers. Most don't wanna teach, just wanna ride. Guess excellent pay might help. :)
 
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