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Flex Fuel Bikes

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kurth83

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With all the flex fuel stuff going on, wondering if
any of our bikes will or can be converted to flex fuel (like E10/20/30/50/85).
 
Most modern bikes can handle 15%-20% max, and even then it tears shit up in the fuel system.
Fuck ethanol and the corn lobby, leave gas alone!
 
I personally doubt we'll see flex fuel bikes until motorcycles become a "practical form of transportation" instead of the "luxury/recreational" vehicles they're classified as now.
 
Meh. One of the great things about bikes is fuel mileage, let's not fuck it up with E85.
 
um yea fuck that corn crap. It has and continues to ruin many tanks on Ducatis.... Lets not talk about the shity performance and all the other crap associated with this junk
 
E85? are you focking kidding me!!!!???? you want even less miles per tank?
 
funny that ethanol takes gasoline to produce and ship, so all the ethanol mixtures will rise in price along w/ gasoline. E85 is 16% cheaper than CA-standard E10, yet we'd probably lose more than 16% in fuel mileage. same goes (diff numbers) for E20 and probably even E10 compared to straight gasoline. no one wins...
 
which reminds me, when's that diesel KLR conversion that the the Marines were working on gonna become commercially available?
 
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Kerosene.. ? LP gas? I wonder how long a BBQ sized tank would last.. Then we could ride around inside! :laughing
 
Ethanol sucks in bikes...make sure you use an additive like the revised Sta-Bil or Starbrite's Enzyme treatment, which helps break down the ethanol and reverse the water absorption and incredibly fast fuel going bad...
 
psychocandy said:
which reminds me, when's that diesel KLR conversion that the the Marines were working on gonna become commercially available?
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That was exactly what I thought of when I saw this topic.
 
stangmx13 said:
funny that ethanol takes gasoline to produce and ship, so all the ethanol mixtures will rise in price along w/ gasoline. E85 is 16% cheaper than CA-standard E10, yet we'd probably lose more than 16% in fuel mileage. same goes (diff numbers) for E20 and probably even E10 compared to straight gasoline. no one wins...
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:wtf
 
MXRider said:
Most modern bikes can handle 15%-20% max, and even then it tears shit up in the fuel system.
Fuck ethanol and the corn lobby, leave gas alone!
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No kidding. And why is it that the farmers I know all complain about "those people" on welfare? Hell, I pay more welfare to corn-happy giant agribusiness than I do to poor people. Food prices are bad enough without forking money over to agribusiness, my mechanic, and Exxon just to get down the road.

I suspect that the 10% is what tore up the rubber seals in my older bike's carbs. Give me straight pump gas, please.

"Flex fuel" systems capable of handling 0-25% ethanol blend require some dedicated hardware that relay the alcohol content of the fuel (I think these work by simple density) to the ECU. If your bike doesn't have this, more than 10% ethanol is going to cause driveability (rideability?) problems and possibly other fuel management problems; the density of fuel with alcohol in it is different, and you'll probably be getting a bigger charge for each injection per cylinder.

What a mess. Makes food, gas, AND vehicles more expensive. Sounds like a real winner if you can afford a lobbying firm.
 
corn is actually over-abundant and barely food. But I agree it's not fuel either. Starch is the opposite of combustible.
 
R6Chick said:
Corn is food, not fuel. When nobody in the country is hungry, then consider food for fuel.
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Most of the corn grown in this country is inedible in it's form. It is however consumed in mass in form of junk food, food like products, and beef. Corn subsidies are one of the worst things that happened to this country.
 
AstroPigGo said:
corn is actually over-abundant and barely food. But I agree it's not fuel either. Starch is the opposite of combustible.
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You are aware that corn is a cultivated crop and that it will NOT grow on it's own, right? And that this crop needs massive intervention in the form of lots of petroleum-burning vehicles to get to be planted, to survive in the wild (pesticides) and to make it to market in any form?

Not sure where you're getting your ideas about starch from. Starch is just complex sugar. Sugar most definitely burns, and quite well, too.

Check out the documentary "King Corn" if you're ever up for a night of horror movie goodness with no men in rubber suits.
 
UDRider said:
Most of the corn grown in this country is inedible in it's form. It is however consumed in mass in form of junk food, food like products, and beef. Corn subsidies are one of the worst things that happened to this country.
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:thumbup and that's a big list
 
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