"Four Corners" In two locations?

[BlueBuellFool]

For the 25 years I've been riding up there...4 corners is 84/35. Period.

Yup.

 

[louemc]

Never heard it called that. Besides, what would be the point? There's no place there to really congregate- may as well go the rest of the way up to the Wall and meet there...

"4 Corners" is 9/35.

Really..I mean, Every + intersection on the map is four corners..

And there is a ton of them that get talked about, and called "Four Corners".

I find something a little more unique to identify a place.

 

[Carlo]

9+35 is four corners and 84 and 35 is Alice's/STP...according to anyone I talk to.

Anyway map out STP. It's got that triangle in the middle, so it's really like 5 corners And that's just assuming people follow traffic laws, which no one does up there. It's really like 8 corners then.

I've always known the corner at 84 and 35 as "Skylonda Corners". Not sure if that name is even used anymore.
Four corners is the intersection ot highway 9.

 

[Bluenote]

I've ridden up there since the early '70s ( yeah I'm so old that I fart dust) , and you can tell what era folks started in by the names they use , if someone refers to 9/35 a s ' The Gap' you know they've been around for a lllooonnnggg time ( usually) , some of us for long enough that we can remember long before that lot was paved and had a payphone and a Hot Dog guy. Alice's has always been Alice's of course , also Sky Londa ,4 Corners etc.

I agree that the usage of 4 corners for the nine/skyline intersection is a fairly recent development , but then so is the use of STP , slang and nomenclature come and go , the roads stay much the same save things like removing one of the best corners on 9 and replacing it with a damn stop sign ( the 9-236 intersection........which is Waterman Gap , by the way).

And then of course there are the individual corners that have gotten named.......such as 'Disappearance Corner' almost to the top of Bonny Doon Rd. , so named because of a certain well known AFM racer who literally sent a six hundred Hurricane into limbo there into the bursh , I shit you not , it took twenty minutes just to find the bike , which incidentally was completely upside down , duct-taped the bodywork back on and he rode it home. And Honda Henry's Holy Shit Corner ( better known as Shingle Mill Corner) where in the old days Henry sacrificed
not one , not two , but FOUR separate Hondas to the Gods of Speed before he finally went Suzuki.

Then there are the places that are long gone , Boots and Saddles , The Boulder Club , the Holy City Zoo , Stevens Creek Lodge , and roads like the old Butano Haul Rd that are now gated and no access.

 

[Flying Pig]

Way to stir up an old debate Rafael!

 

[yelow748]

the place with the best Desserts win

 

[Mike T]

holy effin old thread...

 

[kangaroo]

I remember the retard at 9/35 calling it 4 corners. This was around 98. Everybody there couldn't stop smirking.

 

[orbframe]

it's actually the starbucks at Lewelling and Hesperian...

 

[moto-rama]

From "California Travels" website:

The area was called Four Corners. In the 1950’s it became a restaurant. Alice Taylor bought it in the 1960’s and named it after herself and the Arlo Guthrie song. It has been a favorite stop for bikers, cyclists and hikers for many years. Alice’s Restaurant and adjacent buildings were bought in the 1970’s and has been family run ever since.

Another nail in the coffin corner.

This I believe is the truth.

 

[hophead]

Good idea.

Lets all meet at 4 corners

 

[masameet]

... Intersection of Grizzly Peak/Claremont/Fish Ranch Rd. in the Oakland hills.

Hooli nailed it.

If we go by history alone, the Oakland intersection of GP, Claremont and Fish Ranch Rd. is the original Four Corners in the SF Bay Area. As that was the spot where the Pony Express entered Oakland. But he rode down from there only if he missed the steamer from Sacramento. Which then meant he rode down to Benicia, hopped on a ferry to Martinez, rode over the hills of CoCo County and then down into Oakland via Four Corners to deliver the mail to SF via ferry. This was back in 1860, when obviously no freeways or streets were around.

Also the US Geological Survey (and Wikipedia notes it as well) recognizes only one area in the SF Bay Area as Four Corners, and that's the unincorporated community in CoCo County at Monument Blvd., Oak Grove Rd., Meadow Rd.

Don't believe me?

Well, would you believe Google Maps?

 

[orbframe]

lol, i can produce proof for my hesperian/lewelling claim too


http://www.sanlorenzoexpress.com/busines2.htm

Four Corners

$1.99 Bargain Center (15566 Hesperian; 276-1811)
Beck's Shoes (15596 Hesperian; 317-7855; website)

Big 5 Sporting Goods (15556 Hesperian; 278-0298; website)

Dollar Cleaners (15576 Hesperian; 481-1888)

In-n-out Burger (15575 Hesperian, San Leandro; 800.786.1000; website)

Insta Lube (15526 Hesperian; 481-7584)

Kelly Moore Paints (15611 Hesperian; 276-6492)

Kragen Auto Parts (15604 Hesperian; 276-7822)

Lotus Glass (488 Lewelling; 481-0628)

Mattress and Futon Distributors (486 Lewelling; 278-6045)

Party City of San Lorenzo (15584 Hesperian; 481-5882; website)

Rasputin Music (15590 Hesperian; 276-8893; website)

Starbuck's Coffee (15600 Hesperian; 317-7433)

Walmart (15555 Hesperian, San Leandro; 351-0108)

Vacant: 15501 Hesperian, San Leandro (former restaurant)

also http://www.haywardareahistory.org/sup/docs/slz.pdf

Four Corners
The original town of San Lorenzo was at Hesperian (then called Telegraph) and Lewelling (then called
Main). This intersection was called "The Four Corners." According to the 1878 Atlas of Alameda County:
"At San Lorenzo there is a railroad station, two hotels, post-office, store, a few shops, excellent school,

 

[masameet]

But the Pony Express "Four Corners" beats your San Lorenzo "Four Corners" by almost 20 years.

 

[shoelace]

i have always known four corners to be alices. 9/35 is the parking lot.

and i think that i might actually be old, now. i guess this opinion is another nail in the coffin.

FML

 

[Cali]

To me 9/35 = 4 corners
84/35 = Alice's

 

[KazMan]

ok, I think this is what happened...

All the old-timers wanted to cut back on the number young lions sitting around taking up good table space for breakfast, so they began telling all the young kids who looked up to them to meet at 4 corners...which is at 9/35. This thinned the wait line so well, they just kept continuing the story.

So if an older guy tells you to meet at 4 corners and he says 9/35...well never mind, I'm an old guy what do I know....

 

[Genja Sv1K!]

I've ridden up there since the early '70s ( yeah I'm so old that I fart dust) , and you can tell what era folks started in by the names they use , if someone refers to 9/35 a s ' The Gap' you know they've been around for a lllooonnnggg time ( usually) , some of us for long enough that we can remember long before that lot was paved and had a payphone and a Hot Dog guy. Alice's has always been Alice's of course , also Sky Londa ,4 Corners etc.

I agree that the usage of 4 corners for the nine/skyline intersection is a fairly recent development , but then so is the use of STP , slang and nomenclature come and go , the roads stay much the same save things like removing one of the best corners on 9 and replacing it with a damn stop sign ( the 9-236 intersection........which is Waterman Gap , by the way).

And then of course there are the individual corners that have gotten named.......such as 'Disappearance Corner' almost to the top of Bonny Doon Rd. , so named because of a certain well known AFM racer who literally sent a six hundred Hurricane into limbo there into the bursh , I shit you not , it took twenty minutes just to find the bike , which incidentally was completely upside down , duct-taped the bodywork back on and he rode it home. And Honda Henry's Holy Shit Corner ( better known as Shingle Mill Corner) where in the old days Henry sacrificed
not one , not two , but FOUR separate Hondas to the Gods of Speed before he finally went Suzuki.

Then there are the places that are long gone , Boots and Saddles , The Boulder Club , the Holy City Zoo , Stevens Creek Lodge , and roads like the old Butano Haul Rd that are now gated and no access.

He he It's still alive while the storms came and left! I like this history lesson the best =P I'm only aware of that damn stop sign where the photographers used to sit on 9, that was like the best corner, it will be missed.

 

[tuxumino]

four corners make a nascar track

 

[CDONA]

Think bigger