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Harley vs Sportbikes

On a serious note ( serious? On BARF? yyyeeeeahhhhrriiighht) I'll point out that though certain divisions within motorcycle enthusiasts have always existed it's more prevalent than it's ever been. And the tendency to divide ourselves into armed camps will inevitably exacerbate the ability of the legislative and political juggernauts that loom over us all to exercise their wish to 'divide and conquer'. The scoots we each choose to ride are a very individual choice , said choice having validity for each individual making that choice.

It really does come down to a couple of hackneyed olf cliches that are much overutilised......A. It's not WHAT you ride that counts , it's the fact that you ride.


B. If we fail to stand together ( in the sociopolitical sense) we shall all surely fall separately.



Recently I was up at the Wildwood Cafe ( on 36) , sitting there on the porch enjoying my omelette when a group of BMW riders pulled in , mostly on sportingly oriented Bimmers , they park and one 'gentleman' gets off and comes up to me and tells me that I've got to move my bike so they can avail themselves of photo opportunities , NOT ASKED , tells me. When I point out that I'm in the middle of a meal and I'd willingly move my bike after I was done eating he proceeds to get hot under the collar and tell me " move your Jap piece of shit right now or I'll move it for you." , and of course this led to the predictable discussion wherein I suggested that he might want to go attempt to gain intimate carnal knowledge of some hideous form of ungulate and that putting his hands on another mans scoot may well have consequences that he might be ill prepared to deal with , fortunately cooler heads among his riding buddies prevailed and they intervened and rug him away and extended an apology.

The longwinded moral of this being that NO , I don't categorise BMW riders based upon the actions of a sole individual , there are assholes on every sort of bike and it would well behoove us to not lose sight of that fact , don't judge the brand , the genre , the group , form an opinion of the *individual*.

If our sport/lifestyle/hobby ( whatever label you wish to utilise) is survive the coming legislative hassles ( and YES the politicos WILL get around to us) then we'd best quit dividing into armed camps based solely on WHAT a person rides.


Soapbox mode off.





B.
 
all motorcycles are good...

it's the douchebags that own em that give the brand a bad name...
 
Bluenote said:
On a serious note ( serious? On BARF? yyyeeeeahhhhrriiighht) I'll point out that though certain divisions within motorcycle enthusiasts have always existed it's more prevalent than it's ever been. And the tendency to divide ourselves into armed camps will inevitably exacerbate the ability of the legislative and political juggernauts that loom over us all to exercise their wish to 'divide and conquer'. The scoots we each choose to ride are a very individual choice , said choice having validity for each individual making that choice.

It really does come down to a couple of hackneyed olf cliches that are much overutilised......A. It's not WHAT you ride that counts , it's the fact that you ride.


B. If we fail to stand together ( in the sociopolitical sense) we shall all surely fall separately.





If our sport/lifestyle/hobby ( whatever label you wish to utilise) is survive the coming legislative hassles ( and YES the politicos WILL get around to us) then we'd best quit dividing into armed camps based solely on WHAT a person rides.


Soapbox mode off.



B.
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word.

I just assume this of every person that considers themselves a serious rider.

I would imagine, being relatively new to the sport, i think i am lucky i was not infused with some sort of separatist's doctrine of who and what belongs where and why.
 
F4Rocks said:
Don't worry about them. In fact, all of my Harley riding coworkers are all geeky engineers. :teeth
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I dream of the day when motorcyclists can just get along...I get along with everybody, love both sides of the riding experience, but there is certainly still too much m/c racism.

Also, taking the advice above can get you into trouble. While the vast majority are harmless fellas, just like most of yall, there is a certain percentage that ARE NOT!

Don't judge the person by the type of bike or patch, judge the person by the person...and always remember we are all in love with the same passtime.:thumbup
 
CjkPHD said:
I just don't get it, what's to hate from import bikes from muscle bikes?
I mean meaning to say I've had an interesting feedback from a harley recently, but i didn't do shit. (it was a hell's angel...i'll tell you that story in a sec)

But to me its like racism all over again, aren't we living in a new generation? Fv3k harleys versus sportbikes or vice-versa, i picture it as all of us having one motive: "Which is to ride"

Are we one whole pact or are we a pact with stupid sub categories?

Anyways, here's my interesting feedback story:

I was at a chevron gas station and as newb of my knowledge of harleys and imports, a guy in a harley pulls up to the gas # across from mine. I didn't see his sign of being a Hell's Angel, but i said yo with my head (you know the whole twitch up to say what's up) and he glared me down. Wtf is that shit? Afterwards as i approached the light, light turned green and it was my turn to go, i fv3king stalled in front of him and his ass comes around and blurps his harley in my face for no reason. Talk about attitude.. :rofl
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To be honest with you. I notice it more in the Bay Area and Northern California vs. Southern California (L.A & San Diego). I lived in San Diego for 5 years and you see a lot of motorcycle club functions out there and all types of bikes and clubs show up. Up here, it is more segregated! I agree and believe we ALL on 2 wheels... lets ride! race!
 
Hahaha.

Stormdragon said:
Well you see, you bought one of those Jap rice burners. You are singlehandedly responsible for America no longer being a World Power, the cause of every recession since Nixon, and you make the baby Jesus cry.

The dude's just trying to save your soul before you die and go to that Special Place reserved for Jap bike riders. :p
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:laughing

sv2007 said:
Well, you see, the problem is that you looked too friendly. The wink you gave at the gas station probably started to make the Harley guy unconfortable. Then, when you stalled your bike, the Harley guy got really scared thinking "oh man, this guy purposed stalled so he can get close to me. I'm not a homophobe but this guy creeps my out.. getta get the heck out of there and fast."

Love is a 2 way street. Jut because you fell in love w/ somebody doesn't mean he's required to love you back .
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Blacknblue said:
The only rule about wanting to kick your own ass is not to talk about
wanting to kick your own ass. . . :laughing
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Oh it's ok to think about it, but you can't talk about it. Then you are debating yourself. That would make you a master debater.:teeth
 
Bluenote said:
On a serious note ( serious? On BARF? yyyeeeeahhhhrriiighht) I'll point out that though certain divisions within motorcycle enthusiasts have always existed it's more prevalent than it's ever been. And the tendency to divide ourselves into armed camps will inevitably exacerbate the ability of the legislative and political juggernauts that loom over us all to exercise their wish to 'divide and conquer'. The scoots we each choose to ride are a very individual choice , said choice having validity for each individual making that choice.

It really does come down to a couple of hackneyed olf cliches that are much overutilised......A. It's not WHAT you ride that counts , it's the fact that you ride.


B. If we fail to stand together ( in the sociopolitical sense) we shall all surely fall separately.



Recently I was up at the Wildwood Cafe ( on 36) , sitting there on the porch enjoying my omelette when a group of BMW riders pulled in , mostly on sportingly oriented Bimmers , they park and one 'gentleman' gets off and comes up to me and tells me that I've got to move my bike so they can avail themselves of photo opportunities , NOT ASKED , tells me. When I point out that I'm in the middle of a meal and I'd willingly move my bike after I was done eating he proceeds to get hot under the collar and tell me " move your Jap piece of shit right now or I'll move it for you." , and of course this led to the predictable discussion wherein I suggested that he might want to go attempt to gain intimate carnal knowledge of some hideous form of ungulate and that putting his hands on another mans scoot may well have consequences that he might be ill prepared to deal with , fortunately cooler heads among his riding buddies prevailed and they intervened and rug him away and extended an apology.

The longwinded moral of this being that NO , I don't categorise BMW riders based upon the actions of a sole individual , there are assholes on every sort of bike and it would well behoove us to not lose sight of that fact , don't judge the brand , the genre , the group , form an opinion of the *individual*.

If our sport/lifestyle/hobby ( whatever label you wish to utilise) is survive the coming legislative hassles ( and YES the politicos WILL get around to us) then we'd best quit dividing into armed camps based solely on WHAT a person rides.


Soapbox mode off.





B.
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amen
 
:confused

i like both....:teeth
 
I'm in the one of each camp also. M1100 for cutting canyons (because I'm exporting jobs to Italy instead of Japan, do I go to hell sooner or later? Does the general Catholic cast of Italy still make the baby Jesus cry?) and an FLHX for slab work and 2-up.

Oddly enough, I don't have any real desire to hang with either of the brand-stereotype crowds. The overweight Harley losers living out weekend 1%er dreams or the eurotrash poseurs polishing their ducs :deadhorse

Just like to ride and have been doing it for ~30 years. Maybe the issue is folks looking at their scoot as a fashion accessory? Admission ticket to some social circle? Bleh.


Edit: you can cut canyons on the FLHX too.. (the avatar pic is on Calaveras). I just see it as a lot like surgery with a butter knife
 
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why does Oprah have a pancake on her head? I'm pretty sure thats not dot approved safety gear.
 
Ogglodyte said:
Maybe the issue is folks looking at their scoot as a fashion accessory? Admission ticket to some social circle? Bleh.
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BINGO!!

There are those that like to ride...

...and there are those that like to be seen riding.

:thumbup
 
Yeah, I don't like Harleys, squids, the supermoto guys, jap cruisers, mods, rockers and I really hate the Ducati posers. Did I leave anybody out?

Thanx, Russ

P.S. I ride them all but it's hard not to have preconceived notions. I give everybody a pass until they do something stupid. Hey it's tough out there for a pimp on the streets!
 
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