Help, I got a ticket for 110 mph, need advice.

[Sidesaddle]

but how can he gun me when he was behind me about 20 yards after I accelerated and shut it down no more than a couple of seconds after i shut it down ? It doesnt make sense you cannot use a radar gun while in pursuit. QUOTE]

Actually you can use radar while overtaking someone from behind. It's called "same directional mode". Also, it's not called pursuit when simply overtaking someone.

 

[masameet]

Well, the officer can amend his ticket and provide the proper CVC that you violated. Perhaps you would prefer CVC Section 22348? Or even 42000.1?

But it still doesn't negate the fact that you were riding well over 65 mph. His also putting in that radar caught you doing in excess of 110 mph doesn't bode well for you in court.

And if you were looking at your speedometer the entire time you were accelerating and then slowed down, you certainly would have the greater moral advantage over him. But perhaps your speedo is off?

Plus if you do a search of old LEO threads for radar, you'll read that on cop cruisers radar is mounted front and rear and each can read up to 600 feet.

I dunno. But it sure seems that LEO gave you a big break.

 

[arnoha]

over 100 mph-2points, and reckless driving on record for 3-5 years, and suspension of license, vs. under 100mph- 1 point.

Are you being dense on purpose? You were not cited for reckless. No one even suggested anything about reckless, including the officer who stopped you! You were cited for 22349, simple speeding. You admit to this. Perhaps the officer chose (b) where he should have chosen (a). Mistakes happen, and the courts allow the officer to fix these.

Here's what happens if you don't take this to court:

You're found guilty of 22349, a 1-point infraction. End of story, no real consequences except a little cash.

If you take it to court, three things might happen:

(1) You get stupid lucky and the officer doesn't show up, or some other technicality gets you off.

(2) The officer shows up, amends the ticket to 22349(a) and you're found guilty of that. Roughly the same consequences as if you did nothing but pay it, except, of course, you burned time, and possibly money on a lawyer. Maybe the fine is a touch less because the base speed is 65 instead of 55.

(3) The officer shows up and amends the ticket to 22348(b) (the 100+ code), also an infraction, but two points and with a likely suspension attached. You're found guilty, and life really sucks for a while. Maybe a long while, since it appears your job depends on driving.

Neither code is a misdemeanor!

So, think about it. You were handed a huge gift with the 22349 cite. Accept it and move on, or fight it and risk having your ass handed to you. Your choice.

By the way, modern radar works just fine on the move. It has for a couple decades now.

You didn't state in your posts that you were stopped by CHP, but I'm going to assume so since you said it was freeway. I'm basically repeating what Rel said, but in long form. I'm not a police officer, but Rel is. In fact, he's CHP. I'm going to take a wild guess that he knows what he's talking about when he says the the consequences of what you were written are minimal.

 

[Skidmarx]

Are you being dense on purpose? You were not cited for reckless. No one even suggested anything about reckless, including the officer who stopped you! You were cited for 22349, simple speeding. You admit to this. Perhaps the officer chose (b) where he should have chosen (a). Mistakes happen, and the courts allow the officer to fix these.

Here's what happens if you don't take this to court:

You're found guilty of 22349, a 1-point infraction. End of story, no real consequences except a little cash.

If you take it to court, three things might happen:

(1) You get stupid lucky and the officer doesn't show up, or some other technicality gets you off.

(2) The officer shows up, amends the ticket to 22349(a) and you're found guilty of that. Roughly the same consequences as if you did nothing but pay it, except, of course, you burned time, and possibly money on a lawyer. Maybe the fine is a touch less because the base speed is 65 instead of 55.

(3) The officer shows up and amends the ticket to 22348(b) (the 100+ code), also an infraction, but two points and with a likely suspension attached. You're found guilty, and life really sucks for a while. Maybe a long while, since it appears your job depends on driving.

Neither code is a misdemeanor!

So, think about it. You were handed a huge gift with the 22349 cite. Accept it and move on, or fight it and risk having your ass handed to you. Your choice.

By the way, modern radar works just fine on the move. It has for a couple decades now.

You didn't state in your posts that you were stopped by CHP, but I'm going to assume so since you said it was freeway. I'm basically repeating what Rel said, but in long form. I'm not a police officer, but Rel is. In fact, he's CHP. I'm going to take a wild guess that he knows what he's talking about when he says the the consequences of what you were written are minimal.

Um...case closed?

 

[abemack]

Oh.......Ok now I see were he let me slide, thanks ARNOHA for clearing that up, your point is head on the nail. Thanks for all the feedback fellow BARF members, and I will save my speed for the track. Problem solved

 

[JPM]

I was sited for 110 + was written on the ticket, I did a little research and the vc code he issued me 22349 (b) was exceeding the speed limit on a two lane undivide highway, I was on a 5 lane in both direction highway, and on top of that the ticket indicates he had me on radar, but how can he gun me when he was behind me about 20 yards after I accelerated and shut it down no more than a couple of seconds after i shut it down ? It doesnt make sense you cannot use a radar gun while in pursuit. If he was stationed and gunned me, it's kind of hard to belive he was on my tail that fast from a dead stop on the shoulder while as he stated I was doing a 110 + flyby. I accelerated no more than 80-100 yards looked in my mirror and he was right on me, doesn't add up. I think there's discrepencies in the ticket he issued : first falsefying the use of radar gun, and by issueing me the wrong vc code.

Umm, I can get you on radar if you are pulling away from me or coming up from behind me, so make sure you know what type of radar was used before trying to use that as a defense. Technology is a beautiful thing.

http://www.stalkerradar.com/law_2x.shtml

 

[Cycle61]

Oh.......Ok now I see were he let me slide, thanks ARNOHA for clearing that up, your point is head on the nail. Thanks for all the feedback fellow BARF members, and I will save my speed for the track. Problem solved

My god, did this thread actually come to a rational conclusion?

 

[Rel]

Amen

You didn't state in your posts that you were stopped by CHP, but I'm going to assume so since you said it was freeway. I'm basically repeating what Rel said, but in long form. I'm not a police officer, but Rel is. In fact, he's CHP. I'm going to take a wild guess that he knows what he's talking about when he says the the consequences of what you were written are minimal.

 

[NorCalBusa]

Umm, I can get you on radar if you are pulling away from me or coming up from behind me, so make sure you know what type of radar was used before trying to use that as a defense. Technology is a beautiful thing.

http://www.stalkerradar.com/law_2x.shtml

And going away from you, behind you (or were you wanting to keep that a secret? Ooops)!.

Lucky for most of us, but no guarantee; CHP has only a couple dozen mounted Direction Sensing Radars and only five of the 2X's like JPM's. They do have a few hundred of the handheld Stalker II Direction Sensing. Not to say the 3,000 Dual models (non direction sensing, but do have front and rear ability) that work fine- they just don't have direction sensing as added info for the officer. No, this will not get you out of a ticket- so don't even start.

 

[FJRider]

What advice could you give me for doing 180+ on the 5 ?

Get a pilot's license.

 

[}Dragon{]

Get a pilot's license.

Hey Rel! What's the section in the vehicle code for "flying too low"?

 

[Trick SV]

complementary

 

[chrisrubio827]

it sucks how people stop answering the question that the guy asked!!!! Then you get the smart asses giving there 2 cents, anyways

I get tickets all the time, yes im an AS&^$#E that speeds a lot. I have heard terrible stories just like some other people here, however I can also give you advice from MY personal experience. You get the ticket, go to court plead not guilty, set the date for trial, cops gets notified and then both of you show up. If you are lucky he doesnt and you get off with a smiling face. If he shows up he can say he does not remember the incident and you get off with a smiling face. If he says he remembers and you were hauling ass then the judge will believe him, doesnt matter if he radar'd you or not, cops swear to an oathe they will tell the truth blah blah so thats good enough for the court system as "evidence or proof" that you did speed. the judge can either suspend your license for a period of time he wants, for 110+ id say your lucky with 6 month suspension. Then he CAN take away your M1 and/or your commercial license for a different/same amount of time. basically if you have a lawyer or not it dont mean SHIT. I have NEVER EVER EVER seen a traffic lawyer say ANYTHING besides im representing so and so and the judge says ok this penalty and he says ok. he is basically there so you dont have to be. Cases with lawyers go first, i see it all the time, they dont do crap! So with that said, this is what I do, never fails............


Schedule the court date with the clerk of courts for your pre trial, the one where you say not guilty, ask for the latest date possible. Go to court say not guilty, and your done, you will be notified of your trial thats about 3 months away depening on county. When that month comes, do this 2-3 weeks before the court date i think they require 14 days, ask for another extension, again the furthest possible. You are allowed ONE reschedule, but I have gotten more all the time. so if you get a ticket lets say Janurary 1 you will be notified of a court hearing lets say end of Feb. - March. You go and say not guilty. They schedule not the court hearing, the one where cop has to go maybe end of May-June. , few weeks before reschedule and now the hearing is around September......the damn cop will not remember who the hell you are! He pulls over countless people a week! He will not remember the incident, where he was to witness you, case closed. FYI a cop cannot make notes to remember you such as jan 1st pulled a bike over for such and such, its illegal. Some make little dots or something on the ticket so when they get the copy they will know if you were a jerk or something to them, they know TO SHOW UP to mess with ya. I did not proof read so sorry for any typo's. It 1:30am im tired! lol pm with any questions and PLEASE PLEASE if i offended anyone with this posting, accept my apologies, I am just trying to help someone out who's job is at risk for doing something ALMOST all of us do, speed.

 

[NorCalBusa]

That was a very entertaining and funny read- thanks for the comedy act!

(PS- For those not aware, that's is not how things work.)

it sucks how people stop answering the question that the guy asked!!!! Then you get the smart asses giving there 2 cents, anyways

I get tickets all the time, yes im an AS&^$#E that speeds a lot. I have heard terrible stories just like some other people here, however I can also give you advice from MY personal experience. You get the ticket, go to court plead not guilty, set the date for trial, cops gets notified and then both of you show up. If you are lucky he doesnt and you get off with a smiling face. If he shows up he can say he does not remember the incident and you get off with a smiling face. If he says he remembers and you were hauling ass then the judge will believe him, doesnt matter if he radar'd you or not, cops swear to an oathe they will tell the truth blah blah so thats good enough for the court system as "evidence or proof" that you did speed. the judge can either suspend your license for a period of time he wants, for 110+ id say your lucky with 6 month suspension. Then he CAN take away your M1 and/or your commercial license for a different/same amount of time. basically if you have a lawyer or not it dont mean SHIT. I have NEVER EVER EVER seen a traffic lawyer say ANYTHING besides im representing so and so and the judge says ok this penalty and he says ok. he is basically there so you dont have to be. Cases with lawyers go first, i see it all the time, they dont do crap! So with that said, this is what I do, never fails............


Schedule the court date with the clerk of courts for your pre trial, the one where you say not guilty, ask for the latest date possible. Go to court say not guilty, and your done, you will be notified of your trial thats about 3 months away depening on county. When that month comes, do this 2-3 weeks before the court date i think they require 14 days, ask for another extension, again the furthest possible. You are allowed ONE reschedule, but I have gotten more all the time. so if you get a ticket lets say Janurary 1 you will be notified of a court hearing lets say end of Feb. - March. You go and say not guilty. They schedule not the court hearing, the one where cop has to go maybe end of May-June. , few weeks before reschedule and now the hearing is around September......the damn cop will not remember who the hell you are! He pulls over countless people a week! He will not remember the incident, where he was to witness you, case closed. FYI a cop cannot make notes to remember you such as jan 1st pulled a bike over for such and such, its illegal. Some make little dots or something on the ticket so when they get the copy they will know if you were a jerk or something to them, they know TO SHOW UP to mess with ya. I did not proof read so sorry for any typo's. It 1:30am im tired! lol pm with any questions and PLEASE PLEASE if i offended anyone with this posting, accept my apologies, I am just trying to help someone out who's job is at risk for doing something ALMOST all of us do, speed.

 

[Repsol Robert]

it sucks how people stop answering the question that the guy asked!!!! Then you get the smart asses giving there 2 cents, anyways

I get tickets all the time, yes im an AS&^$#E that speeds a lot. I have heard terrible stories just like some other people here, however I can also give you advice from MY personal experience. You get the ticket, go to court plead not guilty, set the date for trial, cops gets notified and then both of you show up. If you are lucky he doesnt and you get off with a smiling face. If he shows up he can say he does not remember the incident and you get off with a smiling face. If he says he remembers and you were hauling ass then the judge will believe him, doesnt matter if he radar'd you or not, cops swear to an oathe they will tell the truth blah blah so thats good enough for the court system as "evidence or proof" that you did speed. the judge can either suspend your license for a period of time he wants, for 110+ id say your lucky with 6 month suspension. Then he CAN take away your M1 and/or your commercial license for a different/same amount of time. basically if you have a lawyer or not it dont mean SHIT. I have NEVER EVER EVER seen a traffic lawyer say ANYTHING besides im representing so and so and the judge says ok this penalty and he says ok. he is basically there so you dont have to be. Cases with lawyers go first, i see it all the time, they dont do crap! So with that said, this is what I do, never fails............


Schedule the court date with the clerk of courts for your pre trial, the one where you say not guilty, ask for the latest date possible. Go to court say not guilty, and your done, you will be notified of your trial thats about 3 months away depening on county. When that month comes, do this 2-3 weeks before the court date i think they require 14 days, ask for another extension, again the furthest possible. You are allowed ONE reschedule, but I have gotten more all the time. so if you get a ticket lets say Janurary 1 you will be notified of a court hearing lets say end of Feb. - March. You go and say not guilty. They schedule not the court hearing, the one where cop has to go maybe end of May-June. , few weeks before reschedule and now the hearing is around September......the damn cop will not remember who the hell you are! He pulls over countless people a week! He will not remember the incident, where he was to witness you, case closed. FYI a cop cannot make notes to remember you such as jan 1st pulled a bike over for such and such, its illegal. Some make little dots or something on the ticket so when they get the copy they will know if you were a jerk or something to them, they know TO SHOW UP to mess with ya. I did not proof read so sorry for any typo's. It 1:30am im tired! lol pm with any questions and PLEASE PLEASE if i offended anyone with this posting, accept my apologies, I am just trying to help someone out who's job is at risk for doing something ALMOST all of us do, speed.

Apparently you read my book...

This works folks...I got out of 3 speeding tickets the same year using this method...

 

[JPM]

Hey Rel! What's the section in the vehicle code for "flying too low"?

 

[tranquilride]

Interesting timimg, as someone at my work happened to mention that a change in law recently made going 100mph or over a felony. Anyone know if that is accurate & what it would translate as?

Not that I would speed like that, just adding it for the thread.

 

[2strokeYardSale]

FYI a cop cannot make notes to remember you such as jan 1st pulled a bike over for such and such, its illegal.

Bullshit. They will take notes and refer to those notes in court in front of the judge.

 

[Rel]

Not true.

Interesting timimg, as someone at my work happened to mention that a change in law recently made going 100mph or over a felony. Anyone know if that is accurate & what it would translate as?

Not that I would speed like that, just adding it for the thread.

 

[tlsmikey]

I think its a misdemeanor now....not a felony though.