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I went down last night on Redwood rd

Welcome to lecture-ville BARF, full of people who think they could always do better and know what's best for you!

Glad you made it out alright, get that bike fixed and get back out there.
 
Welcome to lecture-ville BARF, full of people who think they could always do better and know what's best for you!

Glad you made it out alright, get that bike fixed and get back out there.

Hint: If you don't want to talk about something, don't fucking post about it.
 
"Fast" has to be defined (and of course it won't be defined anywhere but on the road).

Thing is...the conditions of Redwood Rd (and Pinehearst or anyplace interesting) are fabulous roads to ride as fast as your abilities and judgement allow.
All the compaints are...just riders that haven't developed their abilities and their judgement to do it right.

Sure, but that's the thing... It's not always obvious how fast you can ride.

Compare for example, to a highway like 36 up north. The corners are very predictable, and anything out of the ordinary is signed. Up there, I can comfortably ride at 60% of my ability. On Redwood, there are surprises. Since I don't know the road the way I know 9, I tend to ride closer to 40% of my ability.

On redwood, I take a more conservative pace than I might elsewhere.

Agreed, fast is relative.
 
Sure, but that's the thing... It's not always obvious how fast you can ride.

Agreed, fast is relative.


True :thumbup

In My first year, on my first bike (55 years ago) I had no idea, so I experimented, and made mistakes (miraculously living through them).

Reduced the mistakes to close calls for a couple decades. Now I have no problem what-so-ever...:cool

I'm ashamed of how slow I was going around a corner, and wobbling off the road, on my first crash. It wasn't (in retrospect) that I was going too fast, it was I had no idea of how to go even that fast (which was slow).

I sure envy the riders now that have Professional instruction available.
 
Doing laps in jeans on the streets :facepalm

by laps i didnt mean i was pretending to be nicky hayden. Do u wear full leathers on your way to work? Im guessing no, thats the pace of which i was riding. I went up there to take it easy and learn the roads. i wasnt trying to break any records wearing board shorts and a wife beater. i made a mistake, i admit it but dont think im a freakin moron who still cant pick his feet up till hes doing 30 mph or thinks that im invincible. ive got a few miles and years under my belt already, this aint my first rodeo! :p
 
You especially need full (and armored) leathers going to work. Those people that are trying to get to work, (and left at the last nano-second because they hate their job and the people they work with, and wouldn't voluntarily be around them for a extra minute) are the most dangerous drivers, Evah.
 
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Actually, my favorite road this entire weekend was the section of CA-175 between 29 and 101 near Kelseyville. Twisty as hell, but clean, cambered, and predictable.

One thing that really got my attention when riding 36 last week with Banjoboy is the off-camber turns. Scraped pegs on both sides which I was not expecting. That's one more important thing to watch for when approaching a turn.
 
Heal up soon dude. Its a shame to see such a nice superhawk down. :twofinger
 
One thing that really got my attention when riding 36 last week with Banjoboy is the off-camber turns. Scraped pegs on both sides which I was not expecting. That's one more important thing to watch for when approaching a turn.

Strange... I didn't notice the camber at all. :\
 
Strange... I didn't notice the camber at all. :\
What I mean is, most of the curves are not cambered at all, which is unusual. But also I think this view shows a bit of reverse camber.

Seemed that way to me, anyway. :laughing

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OP, glad you came out of that relatively unscathed, given the possibilities!

I'm glad you'll be looking into better gear for the future, I usually ride with shin/knee pads under my jeans as a minimum, but I'm pretty protective of my knees after 4 surgeries on one of them. Of course, when I started riding 34 years ago, there wasn't much in the way of protection for riders and even 10 years ago a decent leather suit was $1k new and $500 used. Now there are some great prices for gear that really help out. I am, by no means, an ATGATT kind of guy, but there is a minimum that I'll always having when I ride even when in jeans.

I'll bet that knee gives you more pain in the long run than the hand. I've had both different types of injuries and the bones in your hand will take awhile to heal (broke mine in football on a helmet in 8th grade) but will be stronger than before for years.

Good luck when you get back on the bike!
34 years ago I don't know... but my dad has a 2 piece 360 zip leather suit from 1982. It was custom made in Germany and I think around $600 at the time, so NOT cheap, but... they existed by the early 80s.
 
You'd be surprised how many barfers are full gear commuters. I'm always either in full leathers or in my 1-piece Aerostich. Better sweat than bleed! ;) :thumbup

Roadrash won't kill you. It just makes you pray for the sweet release of death.
 
I here by declare that turn on Redwood road the new, more sophisticated "The Wall".
I think we should start a showing once again every weekend at:

"Cafe' Corner" (so named after the old "Cafe' Bikes" which was the current rage back then.) It's the old "RRRA" (Redwood Road Riders Assn.) site where they would meet @ Noon every weekend. Just South of the rifle range/camping area parking lot a few corners, every weekend you were always assured of a group of bikes showing up to ride Redwood/Pinehurst/The Wall/etc.

It would bring back memories; maybe even a ghost or two of the people who hung out there? I recall several really good riders who are now long buried & turned to dust who were there every weekend. It would be kind of a tribute to them...
 
True :thumbup

In My first year, on my first bike (55 years ago) I had no idea, so I experimented, and made mistakes (miraculously living through them).

Reduced the mistakes to close calls for a couple decades. Now I have no problem what-so-ever...:cool

I'm ashamed of how slow I was going around a corner, and wobbling off the road, on my first crash. It wasn't (in retrospect) that I was going too fast, it was I had no idea of how to go even that fast (which was slow).

I sure envy the riders now that have Professional instruction available.

That sounds so familiar to the way I "learned" 35 years ago...and it wasn't pretty.

As you say, riders today have so many more resources at their disposal should they choose to take advantage of them.
 
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