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KTM Duke 200 Review

This might be more like what Americans are looking for. 2012 690Duke.

KTM-690-Duke-2012.jpg

Do want.
 
I'll take the 200 over the 690, thanks.
 
This might be more like what Americans are looking for. 2012 690Duke.

KTM-690-Duke-2012.jpg

This is the bike for me. I really liked the orginal Duke2 (but even their big lc4 motors failed a lot) For every day/comute/alices i want something like this with a bigger seat and more real world than full on dirt bike with slicks.
I wanted to get the bmw 650C or whatever the coolest looking one is but everyone said they suck and retards want $5-$6k for em.
 
l'll take 690cc power with 690cc weight
over 200cc power with 690cc weight

Now if that 200 weighted 70lbs less, than maybe but still not likely.

Duke 690: 356lbs
Duke 200: 275 lbs

So, it's a little more than 70 lbs but will that do?
 
A quick search reveals

Duke 690 = 330lbs
Duke 200 = 275lbs

So a 20% increase in weight
But a 245% increase in engine displacement.

If the 200 weighed in at below 240lbs and $4000 cheaper than a 690 thats where I would need it for me to be a serious customer (already a 690 owner).
 
Ktm's are just overpriced, high strung eurotrash, especially the ugly 690 duke.


Seriously though, just looking at weight v power isn't the perfect way to pick a bike, imop. Only way to really do it is actually ride one.
 
A quick search reveals

Duke 690 = 330lbs
Duke 200 = 275lbs

So a 20% increase in weight
But a 245% increase in engine displacement.

If the 200 weighed in at below 240lbs and $4000 cheaper than a 690 thats where I would need it for me to be a serious customer (already a 690 owner).



As was pointed out, power to weight ratio as a buying guide leads to some really screwy choices. Why stop at a 690? Go bigger, you gain more power without a huge increase in weight. Hayabusa or nothing.

Thanks, but I'll take mine as light as possible.
 
As was pointed out, power to weight ratio as a buying guide leads to some really screwy choices. Why stop at a 690? Go bigger, you gain more power without a huge increase in weight. Hayabusa or nothing.

Thanks, but I'll take mine as light as possible.

Then maybe get an electric powered bicyle? same logic, different qualifiers. Honest question though, if you are all about weight, why do you own the bikes you do?
 
Then maybe get an electric powered bicyle? same logic, different qualifiers. Honest question though, if you are all about weight, why do you own the bikes you do?

There is a point at which the returns of decreased weight are not worth the decease in hp. There are a set of things a bike needs to be able to do in order to be considered.


Weight is definitely not the only consideration but it does matter. The Buell is my touring bike and within that class, it is really light (yes, I know the 1125CR isn't a touring bike, I just mean that is what I use it for).

The XR, I have because it is lighter and more fun blasting around the city than a 500-650cc streetbike. And it was cheap.
 
Ktm's are just overpriced, high strung eurotrash, especially the ugly 690 duke.


Seriously though, just looking at weight v power isn't the perfect way to pick a bike, imop. Only way to really do it is actually ride one.

... says the guy with 3 KTM's :rofl
 
As was pointed out, power to weight ratio as a buying guide leads to some really screwy choices. Why stop at a 690? Go bigger, you gain more power without a huge increase in weight. Hayabusa or nothing.

Thanks, but I'll take mine as light as possible.

Interesting - you would pass on the 690 for a 200 and this is for the street?

I tried the 690SM and Duke and both ride with the agility of tiny bikes.
 
I tried the 690SM and Duke and both ride with the agility of tiny bikes.

I liked both (preferred the SM) and they are quite agile, but they ride nothing like what I would call a tiny bike. Try an Aprilia SXV or even a Yamaha WR250X and both are MUCH lighter handling and more agile. The Duke 200 (or 350) will be a very different riding experience than the 690.
 
Interesting - you would pass on the 690 for a 200 and this is for the street?

Yep. I'd choose the 690 over a 600 supersport but between the 200 and the 690, I'd take the 200.

Now, if it was my only bike, I wouldn't take either because I like road trips but for my daily rider which only needs to handle Oakland and the East Bay hills, the 200 would be great.
 
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Interesting - you would pass on the 690 for a 200 and this is for the street?

I tried the 690SM and Duke and both ride with the agility of tiny bikes.

I would pass on the 690 as well. The 200 looks fun a 350 would be most excellent!
 
I tuned out of this thread for a bit when it went all wonky about tiered licensing fantasies, but now that we seem back on track about unavailable bike fantasies, enjoy this kit from Mototech (found via Hell for Leather):

http://www.mototech.de/index.php?page=news

690 single (70hp), 275lbs.

I should have warned it was NSFW based on the amount of cleanup I just had to do. 4800 euro + your donor 690 Duke.
 
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