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Many things apparently went wrong with Oil Rig Disaster!

afm199 said:
[...]blew five miles of oil, mud and water out the top of the pipe and followed it with high pressure methane and other flammable gas and more oil. It was a witch's brew.
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And we circle back to Epsom salt.
 
afm199 said:
They go after oil that is close enough to the center of the earth to be 300-500 degrees, a temperature when volatile gas and hydrocarbons boil off and create incredible pressure differentials. THOUSANDs of PSI! !!! When the HOT oil hits the section of pipe that emerges from the rock the oil and gas suddenly cool down rapidly, it creates greater problems with condensates and pressure fluctuation. That oil comes up under pressure. Not man made pressure. And when that well blew out it was because of HUGE undersea gas pressure, that blew five miles of oil, mud and water out the top of the pipe and followed it with high pressure methane and other flammable gas and more oil.
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Wow...that's intense.

It's almost like they should have some kind of safety device, that is specifically designed for that kind of pressure...like one that could automatically operate, and would be checked regularly and held to strict safety standards.

Probably a bad idea though, as I don't know much about these things...
 
Cheyenne said:
Wow...that's intense.

It's almost like they should have some kind of safety device, that is specifically designed for that kind of pressure...like one that could automatically operate, and would be checked regularly and held to strict safety standards.

Probably a bad idea though, as I don't know much about these things...
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They had one, it was poorly maintained and did not work. BP is paying millions a day in clean up and will continue to do so. They appear to be about ten times as responsible as EXXON was. People will be fired, lawsuits will be filed. They fucked up, nobody is arguing otherwise.

One last titbit. There are about 4000 feet of 8" riser steel pipe, in one piece, lying on the seabed floor. it has two leaks, one close to the end ( which is where the containment vessel was to be placed) and the other at the well head, a much smaller one. The big leak is the riser leaking.
 
jacksprat said:
Mean Dad's Guide to offshore drilling.
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Oh hells yeah.:cool
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:rolleyes

you forgot the dynamic stabilizer. duh.

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:thumbup
:rofl
 
afm199 said:
They had one, it was poorly maintained and did not work.
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I should have used the sarcasm smiley...my point is that all your safety crap is worth nothing if it's not in tip-top shape, and kept that way, through serious effort. In other words, they have to make it a priority.

And it's great that they are being responsible, but we need that oil, and the industries affected by the spill.

So I vote jail time for top level executives. Serious jail time.

So that the next crew, spends a bit more on safety, just in the interest of keeping their butthole size the same.

Fuck the politics, say it's for wasting nat'l resources for all I care...just nail some people to the wall, so the next crew are SCARED to fuck off safety for a few extra millions...which is pennies in that game.
 
I am all for jail time for corporate executives for tax evasion, corporate chicanery such as this, employing illegal immigrants, etc. It would pretty much end stuff like this.
 
afm199 said:
I am all for jail time for corporate executives for tax evasion, corporate chicanery such as this, employing illegal immigrants, etc. It would pretty much end stuff like this.
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I bet during their jail time they could do some hard labor, say, cleaning up the gulf coast?
 
GO. said:
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http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0514/76111/
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I'm curious how the person sighted in this article came up with the 40,000 lbs. per sq. inch.

By my math the depth is ~5000 ft. Which equates to 152.51 atmospheres absolute. (D/33+1)

There is approx. 14.7 PSI p/ATA, so: 14.7x153 = 2249 PSI
Unless my basic math is way off, I'd be highly suspect of anything this "Expert" says.
 
Anti-Hero said:
I'm curious how the person sighted in this article came up with the 40,000 lbs. per sq. inch.

By my math the depth is ~5000 ft. Which equates to 152.51 atmospheres absolute. (D/33+1)

There is approx. 14.7 PSI p/ATA, so: 14.7x153 = 2249 PSI
Unless my basic math is way off, I'd be highly suspect of anything this "Expert" says.
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Simmons actually is a pretty renowned oil guy. Whether he was miquoted or he was referring to possible pressure at the well head from methane and boiled off light hydrocarbons is a thought. The water pressure there is as you say.

I once twisted two wrong valves and put 450psi into a house. :rofl:rofl
 
Simmons is a pretty renowned Doom and Gloomer in the Peak Oil circles. He lost credibility with me when he put out an article predicting Peak Uranium, presumably based on his expertise in the oil field which has nothing to do with mining Uranium.
 
afm199 said:
Simmons actually is a pretty renowned oil guy. Whether he was miquoted or he was referring to possible pressure at the well head from methane and boiled off light hydrocarbons is a thought. The water pressure there is as you say.

I once twisted two wrong valves and put 450psi into a house. :rofl:rofl
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What that for the pressure test of the copper water pipes?

What blew?
 
Climber said:
What that for the pressure test of the copper water pipes?

What blew?
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No, I had a holding tank that was at 100 feet and supplied 45 psi or so to the house. I had a high tank at over 1000 feet that fed several smaller low tanks. The system was manifolded but not safetied ( in Big Sur in the sixties we were BROKE). I opened the feed valve from the big tank while the supply to the house was still open in a common manifold, so the house got pressurized. It was a good lesson. What should have blown was the hot water heater blowoff, what actually happened was that a bathroom supply cock with a compression fitting just blew off the end of the copper, just made a mess in the bathroom.

I think we laid two or three miles of pipe by hand on that job.
 
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