Naked S1000RR

[CurveSurfer]

I'll pass. The S1000 is a pretty amazing bike, why ruin it by stripping it down? Just not a fan of "naked" or "streetfightered" sportbikes.

It's not about the fairings, it's about the miserable riding position of race replicas. They're intended for stints of 20-40 minutes, not as street bikes.

Naked bikes get higher bars and a bit lower pegs.

 

[joespeedfast]

I thought this thread was about this bike... dual-sport and, ya it's a bmw(ugly).
I like my 750 better.

 

[theAmazingKickstand]

be a 1200cc BMW .

Have you considered the R1200C? Highly regarded.

 

[TigerLily]

I hope so. The only question I have is....Why didn't an American do this already?


Either buy the bike new, and enjoy the newness...or pick up one that tiped over and broke the plastic, and turn signals and rashed some stuff, and start from there?

Can it be possible that Americans can't grasp what it's like to move that performance into the form of a backroad bashing Canyon strafing insane rocket?

Why did it take the Europeans to give us the Motard...when we had a TV show, 20 years previous..called Super Bikers? Why does it take Europeans to introduce Multistrada and Hyper Motard and Cafe Racers and Motocross bikes? (we got Motocross from Europe Ya Know).

Why did it take Europeans to give us Street fighters?

Why is The Isle of Man...Not an American event?

What is freakin wrong with US?

Wow. I stopped reading the thread at this post. This is more than Post of the Day, how about Post of the Month?

Will finish reading now.

 

[fast4d]

Wuderlich does not make a kit for 2012. Front geometry changed so their triple won't work

 

[Jaxx]

It's not about the fairings, it's about the miserable riding position of race replicas. They're intended for stints of 20-40 minutes, not as street bikes.

Naked bikes get higher bars and a bit lower pegs.

Bingo. I couldn't take the torture anymore and went to the Street Triple. I've been considering the Ducati Streetfighter as a far future bike but this Beemer may be a competitor.

 

[EEL]

I hope so. The only question I have is....Why didn't an American do this already?


Either buy the bike new, and enjoy the newness...or pick up one that tiped over and broke the plastic, and turn signals and rashed some stuff, and start from there?

Can it be possible that Americans can't grasp what it's like to move that performance into the form of a backroad bashing Canyon strafing insane rocket?

Why did it take the Europeans to give us the Motard...when we had a TV show, 20 years previous..called Super Bikers? Why does it take Europeans to introduce Multistrada and Hyper Motard and Cafe Racers and Motocross bikes? (we got Motocross from Europe Ya Know).

Why did it take Europeans to give us Street fighters?

Why is The Isle of Man...Not an American event?

What is freakin wrong with US?

Because armchair quarterbacking is easier than actually putting effort into something.

That's why sites like BARF flourish.

 

[louemc]

Because armchair quarterbacking is easier than actually putting effort into something.

That's why sites like BARF flourish.

Umm, I think there is more to it, than that. There seems to be something uniquely American involved here.

Just seems strange to me...because Americans were Hot Rodders...seemed to lead the world in putting together the highest performance engines, and drag racing activity.

And enough want the highest performance motorcycles...so the latest and greatest, is a topic of interest...

So...why is it, that Europeans have the movement, that is the market, for street fighters and Motards -SuperMotards- HyperMotards...
And Americans (except for a few of them) just have no interest?

The no interest, is also the reason..Manufactures that have dealerships here....Don't send some very cool bikes over...because we don't buy enough for them to bother with.

These movements took hold in Europe, because individuals put bikes together, themselves. Then when the movement became obvious...the factories jumped in, with their offerings.

Harley cruiser/chopper/bobber types do stuff...but a Race replica rider doesn't seem to be able to do anything. An aftermarket muffler and flush turn signals and clean off the license mount...seems to be their limit.

Change out the clip-ons for tubular handle bars? To radical

I just get the impression, that a very low percentage of bikers here, have any idea of how a bike works..and what modifications make the bike work better at a givin use..
Like use on the public road...so...not knowing...they have no incentive to do anything.

 

[CurveSurfer]

Bingo. I couldn't take the torture anymore and went to the Street Triple. I've been considering the Ducati Streetfighter as a far future bike but this Beemer may be a competitor.

Ducati SF isn't as upright as it looks...sit on one awhile before taking the plunge!

 

[CurveSurfer]

Umm, I think there is more to it, than that. There seems to be something uniquely American involved here.

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So...why is it, that Europeans have the movement, that is the market, for street fighters and Motards -SuperMotards- HyperMotards...
And Americans (except for a few of them) just have no interest?

I think we're posing these questions on the wrong forum.

Europe doesn't have a cruiser culture, so the guys who aren't into sportbikes buy standards, adventure bikes, motards and nakeds.

Instead of asking sportbike riders why they don't buy nakeds and standards (they will eventually), we should be asking cruiser riders why THEY aren't buying nakeds and standards.

These models don't sell here because the guys who should be buying them in droves are buying Harleys instead.

 

[louemc]

I think we're posing these questions on the wrong forum.

Europe doesn't have a cruiser culture, so the guys who aren't into sportbikes buy standards, adventure bikes, motards and nakeds.

Instead of asking sportbike riders why they don't buy nakeds and standards (they will eventually), we should be asking cruiser riders why THEY aren't buying nakeds and standards.

These models don't sell here because the guys who should be buying them in droves are buying Harleys instead.

It''s a complex matrix alright. so many forms of the two wheeled life.
Can't think of a better place to be dissussing it though...BARF has the most intelligent and mix of road race-track riders that deal with public roads that are hazard city...with substandard drivers and substandard road surface conditions.

And basically we are talking Race Replica bikes...used on the public road.

And we (a lot of riders anyway) Love stonk power, to reshape the brain on demand,,,under acceleration.

Getting that power to the ground...requires a complete package, of chassis and suspension and tires, with the engine...Standard doesn't cut it...and Harley Doesn't cut it...And GT bikes like Busa and ZX14 don't do well at all...in tight twisties..they shine on civilized roads (but that's where traffic and Cops are) so they have severe limitations.

Nakid and power like liter Race Replica's is leaving something to be desired...when the speed elevates...so some fairing is desireable.

This is an area that needs to be explored...More.

 

[HappyHighwayman]

Couldn't sit on it but he revved it for me, Full Carbon Remus exhaust sounded incredible. It was very very well done. You could probably convert a standard S1000RR to naked for a lot less than they spent if you skip the exhaust and suspension work.

 

[infraboy]

Tuono V4R is still the naked bike for me to have.

 

[Cincinnatus]

You folks can't have my nekkid BMW K1200R.

93 ft/lb torque
167 hp
0-60 in 2.63, redlines in 1st gear @ 70 mph
redlines in 3rd gear @ 130 mph (not that I've ever gone over 77 mph, officer...)
redlines in 6th gear @ 155 mph at 6,000' elevation

Booo-yeah...

 

[RRrider]

Bingo. I couldn't take the torture anymore and went to the Street Triple. I've been considering the Ducati Streetfighter as a far future bike but this Beemer may be a competitor.

The streetfighter rides very differently from your STR. If you wanted to "upgrade" to a litre sized naked, I'd definitely go test ride the Aprillia RSV4 based Tuono and when available this naked S1000RR (both seem fun!).

That said, I'm not convinced however where the "upgrade" helps you on the street. I believe the STR is not only more maneuverable than the litre bikes, but is actually faster at street speeds (including "spirited" pace twisties speeds). It's only when you kick in the afterburners at high rpms that the litre bikes advantages shine through (and then they shine brightly!). That's way beyond even speeding on the street...that's thunderhill style straightaways on the track. IMO. FWIW.

 

[Zerox]

Strange times when a 160-hp motorcycle is labeled "detuned."

 

[CurveSurfer]

That said, I'm not convinced however where the "upgrade" helps you on the street. I believe the STR is not only more maneuverable than the litre bikes, but is actually faster at street speeds (including "spirited" pace twisties speeds). It's only when you kick in the afterburners at high rpms that the litre bikes advantages shine through (and then they shine brightly!). That's way beyond even speeding on the street...that's thunderhill style straightaways on the track. IMO. FWIW.

Not much point in raising this as an argument for the STR, it's the same one that's been going on forever about 600s vs. 1000s for the street.

We. Want. Power.

(Though I'm not clear why an STR would be more maneuverable than a Tuono V4 or pending naked S1KRR.)

 

[CurveSurfer]

You folks can't have my nekkid BMW K1200R.

We didn't want them new and we still don't want it now.

Compared to the bikes under discussion here the long-wheelbase K12R is heavy and lumbering. It's a GT bike without the weather protection.

(Looks bad ass in in all black!)

 

[RRrider]

Not much point in raising this as an argument for the STR, it's the same one that's been going on forever about 600s vs. 1000s for the street.

We. Want. Power.

(Though I'm not clear why an STR would be more maneuverable than a Tuono V4 or pending naked S1KRR.)

Re: 600 v 1000 - yup, I basically agree, except a naked has the additional leverage of the handlebars compared to the race replica style clip ons. Also the nakeds tend to have their torque curve lower at the expense of top end speed, so the power is more accessible on the street (i.e. at lower rpms).

Re: Tuono v STR: The STR is smaller and lighter, therefore more flickable.

Re: We. Want. Power. - Agreed, so I decided to get a litre bike as well

 

[fast4d]

if you put handle bars on a s1000rr you better be careful. it'll rip your arms off at WOT if you're not leaning forward....