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Palm Sliders

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SFSV650

The Slowest Sprotbike™
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Sep 22, 2011
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Still behind a Prius
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2007 R1200R
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My current gloves, Knox Recon, have plastic sliders on the palm and over the scaphoid (thumb) bone.

I've looked at gloves from other manufacturers - including Dainese and Rev'it - which seem to be of decent quality, but none have these sliders. Some have an additional leather pad.

I'm reluctant to buy a pair of gloves without these sliders, but I can't tell if I'm placing too much emphasis on this one feature. Has anyone had experience with both?
 
My (well-used) Racers have (well-used) palm sliders. I don't know why a quality leather pad wouldn't be fine for sliding, but if you like to have the sliders, there are other glove options.
 

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i rather not have them.. they scratch tanks. I crashed on both, at high speed.. both held up.. BUt both were also quality gloves.
 
held gloves I use either have carbon fiber or this 'stingray' skin.

tested the CF. works well.
 
Buy whatever gloves cover your personal value of your hands.

I have alpinestars gp plus gloves, they have sliders and all that. Increases my confidence just a bit.
 
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2 layers of good leather is probably more than sufficient to protect your palm... unless your hand was pinned under the bike or something. but even then, the rest of the glove will blow even if those sliders remain intact.

+1 to Held stingray stuff
 
I have Aerostitch Roper gloves.

They slide on pavement fine!

:twofinger

Fugg'n plastic palm silders. Next you'll tell me motorcycling is dangerous.
 
Personal preference, I like the sliders. I ground through a "quality" pair of gloves down to my palm in a crash. Wasn't able to jack off for a month. :thumbdown
 
I like palm sliders. I've torn through A* gloves that didn't have any protection there and I have slid in two gloves palm down that have stingray over foam and both were completely un-damaged. I never tested the plastic knox sliders on my racers. Scaphoids are a common bone to break in your hand.... I'd rather protect it as much as possible.

I embrace changes in technology! :twofinger
 
High quality, properly stitched leather with padding will do fine. However, stitching by some of even the higher end manufacturers (cough* Dainese *cough) is questionable on many of their products.

Helimot never puts any of that slider stuff of their gloves. They showed me a few pairs of the touring/street focused buffalo 365's and buffalo pro's that the rider "super manned" on pavement in high speed crashes. The padding helped with impact, and the leather did the sliding/abrasion protection part. They also had a few pairs from Held and other brands to show how the plastic/carbon fiber can shatter or even help break bones.

But then again, the MotoGP guys wearing the big brand stuff crash all the time and we hear more about broken clavicles or legs rather than hand issues.

If you're gonna go off the shelf other than knox, I'd go with Rev'it, Racer, or Spidi. I've never had issues with Rev'it quality. But if you're already spending that much, you can get a pair of custom race gloves from helimot.
 
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The theory behind the sliders on the heel of the palm has less to do with protection (slider vs leather) as it does with trying to avoid a tumble. The idea is that it is common for someone to try to brace their fall by putting their hands out during an accident and leather palms could grab the ground and start a tumble (bad). Where as if you put your hands out and have sliders your hands slide potentially avoiding a tumble.
 
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All interesting points.

All I know is that the one time I crash tested a knox slider, the leather didn't touch the pavement. :dunno
 
More than ten years ago Held was putting "sliders" on the palms of their gloves. I've had three pairs of them that all had these:
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What a bunch of wankers, You're supposed to hit the pavement with your hands in the BARF salute.

Those Titanium or Carbon Fiber knuckle guards, aren't there for nothin. :laughing
 
Crashed once off-road when I reached out with my hand in the fall and planted firmly enough that I ended up with a distal radius fracture. Needless to say sliders will help for on road crashes and my helds have the stingray but it's also good to keep in mind that if you are going down hard, your hands sure aren't going to stop you. Might be hard to remember when you are flying off your bike but it's good to keep in mind.
 
jimboFosho said:
Might be hard to remember when you are flying off your bike but it's good to keep in mind.
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I don't know how many times you've flown off of a bike, but the few times that I've done it there wasn't even the tiniest bit of my brain power devoted to where my hands were going to be when I hit. All of that was automatic. :x
 
Ended up ordering a pair of Knox Orsa Leather gloves. They're shorter and more perforated, but they've got the sliders and (it seems) the Boa lacing from the recon.

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Hyperbole said:
But then again, the MotoGP guys wearing the big brand stuff crash all the time and we hear more about broken clavicles or legs rather than hand issues.
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It still happens. Weirdest handshake ever (for me) was meeting Troy Bayliss: he's missing most of his pinkie after a crash ground it off.

jimboFosho said:
Might be hard to remember when you are flying off your bike but it's good to keep in mind.
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ScottRNelson said:
I don't know how many times you've flown off of a bike, but the few times that I've done it there wasn't even the tiniest bit of my brain power devoted to where my hands were going to be when I hit. All of that was automatic. :x
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+1
Every crash I've had, its like I'm a passenger and hands shoot out from nowhere to break the fall and turn it into a roll. (turns out that all that time playing football and learning how to fall was actually good for something :laughing)

It isn't something you can "think" about and do. Its something you practice so that when it does happen, the body reacts without thinking about it. One of my big pet theories that I can't prove is that motorcycle riders get hurt quite often because they don't know and/or practice falling like a martial artist. Natural instinct leads to broken bones.
 
Got a pair of racer r-safe with knox sliders. They dont seem to scratch the tank. Palms are reinforced with superfabric which is supposed to be quite resilient.

The sliders don't seem to interfere in any way in my riding. I'd rather have them than not.
 
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